There are many proofs that Jesus was not born in 25 December and it is in fact a pagan Roman festival for the Sun God, when the sun arrive at the southernmost point below the equator. ....and the christmas and also many things about Christianity itself is established the pagan emperor Constantine Should christmas moved to the exact date of Jesus's birth, instead of 25 december?
we? please don't bring me on this subject. if you don't believe that it is your problem, don't bring it with we stuff.
I understand that knowing that one has been believing fairy tales for a long time may be uncomfortable, but ignoring it won't make it real.
Well if you think calendar dates are auspicious and important then that could also be considered a pagan belief. If the astrology/time of year is of the most importance then change it, if not then celebrating it on a less than historical date shouldn't matter at all. Then again I think a person could make a strong argument that Christmas as it is celebrated in the US is more of a secular holiday based on consumerism than anything else. In fact I bet you could google a hundred blogs saying just that.
i know what you meant. no matter how many times that people keep on telling them selves that there is no god, doesn't make it true. isn't that sucks.
This is the point. You "believe" he existed, cientificoloco was talking about "knowing" that he existed. The fact is you aren't privy to any information that the rest of us aren't, so you can't "know" any more than anyone else does. This is what makes the religious such an intellectual liability, They claim absolutely certainty for things they can't possibly know. LOL check out number 9 "You have no supernatural friends like angels". It's infantile garbage.
Typically, you can't distinguish between the existence of god and the belief in god. The arguments mentioned in that website represent the intellectual shallowness of the arguments justifying religion. Every single point is so ridiculous that the post well could come from a mock piece from TheOnion. So we should believe in god in order to have fun at Xmas? To have fun at masses? (I admit there were hot chicks in the Cathequist group I attended when I was a kid but I never saw how that proved god.) So for you it doesn't really matter whether god exists or not, it's just believing because of the benefits? (lame benefits for abandoning usage of your brain to say the least)
Not every religious topic has to be reduced to a debate on the existence of God. Especially since there are already a billion of those and this topic actually had a different angle to begin with.
In answer to the original question. The date of December 25th was chosen for two reasons. They did not know the true date of Jesus. The second and most important reason was that they were trying to appease the Pagans who would not give up the celebrations of the equinox. By combining this along with many other pagan traditions, Christianity was more easily tolerated and merged into people's life. All religions are made up of stolen traditions from other older religions. It is why many question all the different religions because they could not all be correct. Have you ever been to a Catholic service? It is very Pagan like in nature and has an almost cult like feel.