As a publisher, how do you upsell (technical question)?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by rolf, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hey, I know that you can increase your $/sale if you do upsells, OTOs etc.

    But how do you pass this on to the affiliate?

    Say you want to promote fatloss4idiots as an upsell. Do you just link to http://fatloss4idiots.com/ ?

    Or do you need some special linking code?
     
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    It doesn't really work like that. An upsell is something that the buyer can either choose to buy or not buy, there's no special landing page for it, no special code, or anything else. The affiliate benefits because the upsell costs more money which means a higher affiliate payout.
     
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    Thanks. I know its optional but how do you link to the upsell? Basically how do you ensure that the affiliate gets the credit?

    I keep hearing vendors say to affiliates that their product has a lot of backend sales for which the affiliate will beneift. How is that so?
     
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    I have several backend products that my affiliates get credit for. Here's how I do it:

    When you sign up as a merchant, clickbank gives you 50 product slots to sell separate items. I use those separate slots to sell my backend products. Every one of those products pass on the original affiliate cookie to clickbank. So the original affiliate gets credit for all backend sales.
     
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    Hi venrooy, I get it now. So these must be your own products right? Like 1.vendorid, 2.vendorid etc.?

    You can't promote another vendor's product?
     
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    Because as a publisher you can offer different products all with the same CB ID so if the affiliate gets their hop attached to that CB ID they get credit for anything that publisher sells (with that CB ID.)

    For example my product is 57.67 and I plan on adding an upsell version which will be 19.95 more (a total of 77.62) if an affiliate sends a visitor to my site they get credit whether the visitor buys the normal prices version or the upsell version. The benefit for the affiliate? More money if the visitor buys the upsell version!

    And again to make it clear: Both the regular version and the upsell version are from the same publisher so they have the same publisher ID. It's really not nearly as complicated as I think you're making it out to be :)
     
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    Hey zibblu i get it now. I was hoping there was some way to give the affiliate credit if you promote another vendor's product as an upsell. Unfortunately it seems there isn't.
     
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    yes - there's really no way of doing that, because clickbank only has a 1 tier affiliate system. It would be nice if they could split credit into tiers like that, but it may become a logistics nightmare for them. They have enough trouble keeping track of the original affiliates.

    However - don't let your list die out, just because you don't have enough of your own items to sell to them. A Clickbank cookie only lasts for 60 days anyway. So I'll promote my own items to a signup for 60 days, so that my affiliates get full credit. But after someone has been on my list past 60 days, I'll start promoting other products to them. It would be a waste not to.
     
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    I agree with that. It seems reasonable for publishers to promote other products to their list but only after that 60 day window is up. I also don't think a publisher should ever override an affiliate's cookie on their own product in their emails. I caught a publisher doing that recently and I won't spend another second promoting their product as an affiliate because of it.
     
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    Was the vendor using their own affiliate link? Of course if they simply list the regular URL then your cookie is not overwritten.
     
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    Yes. They were overwriting the current cookie with their own.
     
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    Hi, I like the idea of adding upsell's, I want to have affiliates give away a free report which contains several upsells or backend products will clickbank allow this, I.e free report/product as front end?
     
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    It *is* possible to give your affiliates credit for other vendors products. In comes in two stages.

    1) When your visitor lands on your page, Clickbank will pass in a "?hop=xxxxxx" . You can read this with some server side code (or even client side JavaScript). Here's an example in PHP.

    
    if (isset($_GET["hop"])) {
      $aff = $_GET["hop"];
      set_cookie("affiate_id", $aff, ... other params ...);
    }
    
    Code (markup):
    Now you have the affiliate cookie set on YOUR domain so your code can see it in future (that's the problem we need to get around - Clickbanks cookies are set on THEIR domain so you can't see them).

    2) When you want to redirect to another vendor and give your affiliate credit, simply do this:

    
    $aff = $_COOKIE["affiate_id"];
    $vendor = "freestuff0";
    header("Location: http://{$aff}.{$vendor}.hop.clickbank.net/");
    exit;
    
    Code (markup):
    This reads the cookie you set earlier (on your domain, remember?) and uses it to build a new hoplink with the original referring affiliate's ID.

    You can accomplish a similar thing with Javascript and window.location.search (instead of $_GET), and document.cookie (instead of set_cookie()).
     
    TigerPublishing, Oct 18, 2009 IP