Articles links Question?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by tptnyc, May 16, 2007.

  1. daniboy

    daniboy Peon

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    #21
    That might be so, but when a well written article starts getting "diggs" and comments on those it has a positive impact on your position in the serps if it is well anchor linked to something similar in your site.

    Also if people reproduce your article on their site with the anchors in place.... there's clickthru traffic from the anchor links, maybe a digg or two with your anchor links in and technorati authority for your own blog.

    All of these can positively impact your positions in the serps if the article is thought out correctly.
     
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  2. Vreeenom

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    #22
    You are saying that it's duplicate content, too?



    I simply can't go with this.. all my job around the web was to write articles, and submit them to directories... very satisfied clients, very good results for myself..

    I simply can't agree with you guys telling me that this won't help that much..
     
    Vreeenom, May 18, 2007 IP
  3. daniboy

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    #23

    I think you misread me there, I'm not saying it's duplicate content. If it's spam then it probably looks duplicate, but i'm not a spider/bot so I won't comment.

    What I'm saying that a well written article is a good tool to have in your arsenal, because of the anchor links, diggs, stumbles, technorati's, links in other site when reproduced, author details etc....etc....

    But a badly written spam article might not harm you, but might not do much good either.

    I'm just experimenting with articles and a couple of dir's. So far 2 of my articles haven't done much for me, but another one I sumbitted (which I spent more time on!) put 3 targetted phrases for my site to the first page of google within 46 hours. (it had a few diggs and tecnorati's etc... and quite a few downloads).

    To me they're good if not abused and targetted correctly.
     
    daniboy, May 18, 2007 IP
  4. Vreeenom

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    #24
    two words:

    Great post!

    Thanks
     
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  5. MarcRoman

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    #25
    Short term you're probably right. Long term, just wait and see. I have articles that are going on 7 months old. What I find is that it only takes about a month now, and almost everything is thrown in the supplemental index. At that point the article does you no good. Now if it's on a popular blog or gets included in an Ezine, then that could be helpful, but otherwise, it serves no purpose. It's not helping your SERPS, no matter what the old SEO wisdom used to be 3-6-12 months ago.

    I say again, show me any article more than 2 months old that was submitted to multiple article directories that has more than 10% of the submissions still active and out of the Supplemental index. It's really not that hard to research. I've done it, multiple times. the evidence is all there for you if you're willing and able to do the research. Or you can keep plugging away, and realize in a few months that you've wasted your time. Forest has it exactly right.

    M
     
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  6. wxyz

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    #26
    submission to free articles directories are useful for seo ranking but article should be unique.
     
    wxyz, May 18, 2007 IP
  7. MarcRoman

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    #27
    Yeah, yeah, that's the standard answer. Not true however. Unless you plan on rewriting it for every article directory, is that what you're proposing?

    MR
     
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  8. Vreeenom

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    #28
    http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Best-Way-to-a-Farm-Loan-Success&id=63672
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Meeting-the-Balance-of-Agricultural-Financing&id=63673


    my first 2 articles submitted on the web, please tell us more.

    Thanks
     
    Vreeenom, May 19, 2007 IP
  9. daniboy

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    #29
    I think some of us aren't going to agree here!...

    Never mind eh!

    I'll still sleep just the same and carry on wasting my time!!:D
     
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  10. 2KTown

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    #30
    Anyone's comments on quantity vs. quality? Is it more valuable to have 50 PR0 links or one PR2 link (from the inbound link page)? I spend a lot of time writing and I use automated submission (Article Marketer) and the occasional hand submission.
     
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  11. MarcRoman

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    #31
    Alright I looked at just the first article:


    The Best Way to a Farm Loan Success

    Then I did a google search on the above with the quotes around it. Now, obviously the Ezinearticles is still there. But, look at any of the other returns.

    loan.easyapproved.org/wqnxucu/

    Is just a list of different articles, your article is not indexed. You can verify it, by checking the actual address of your article. Type into the google search box the URL below, and Google can’t find it, which means google kicked it completely out because it was a duplicate.

    http://loan.easyapproved.org/the-best-way-to-a-farm-loan-success.html

    The same thing with the next entry:

    http://www.inktec-uk.co.uk/Mortgages/sitemap.htm

    Your actual article is not indexed.

    Then the next one is a link from a DIFFERENT article on Search Warp. Which means you added your article to Search Warp. And once again it’s not indexed on Google.

    http://searchwarp.com/swa15315.htm

    Skipping down a few I found one that actually did survive.

    http://www.peoplesalmanac.info/files/loans/56580.php

    But, it’s on a PR0 page, so that’s not doing you too much good.

    The rest are the same, just index listings not the actual articles. And then eventually you find some that did survive but they are in the supplemental index which of course isn’t doing you a bit of good. You’re not getting any PR juice, and not getting a backlink either.

    http://www.10000articles.com/go/en/...ID--46790--category--finance-loans--page.html

    If you look at in Google it tells you it is in the supplemental index.

    So, I only found 2 valid links into your website from that article at least from the perspective of Google. Some of these might count as Yahoo Links, but not Google links. For instance look at some of the backlinks that Yahoo counts, and you’ll see that Google doesn’t even have the page indexed. Hence, it CANNOT be a backlink to your site.

    http://www.financebits.com/the-best-way-to-a2107.html

    That’s the first one I found in your Yahoo links (Yahoo search Link:www.farmloans.com)

    Does that help? And does it make sense? Was it really worth it to submit to SearchWarp and 10000articles.com?

    M
     
    MarcRoman, May 21, 2007 IP
  12. MarcRoman

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    #32
    Dani-

    Look at the response I put above. And do the same thing for any article you've got access to that is a few months old. You'll see what I mean. Google is very adept at weeding out duplicates.

    I wished it worked the way all the gurus say it's supposed to. But, unfortunately it just doesn't.

    M
     
    MarcRoman, May 21, 2007 IP
  13. Vreeenom

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    #33
    MarcRoman
    thank you very much for your post.

    What I am understanding... will be that articles submissions doesn't have any effect?

    what are the directories indexed by google?
    ezinearticles and other 2 or 3?

    should we submit only to these ones?.. of course speaking of Google..


    like u said.. yahoo.. and msn I guess are much easier..right?
     
    Vreeenom, May 21, 2007 IP
  14. pmarkov

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    #34
    Hi Vreeenom,

    Could you point out some of your satisfied clients? Any testimonials?

    I have a website too. Is it possible to get listed as your satisfied clients? If so please PM details and price.

    Thank you
     
    pmarkov, Jun 18, 2007 IP
  15. Vreeenom

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  16. pmarkov

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    #36
    Hello

    I have read several threads about link building, directory submission and acricle submission...

    I understand:
    1. Paid link are rid out by google.
    2. directory submission do not help for SERP because most often there a lots of out links per page and/or my website get listed at the end
    3. article submission do not help too in a long term because of duplicate contents.

    So it is very interesting for me ( and for may people too) what we have to do for better SERP? Is there any way to get listed on top 10 for popular keywords?

    Thank you
     
    pmarkov, Jun 24, 2007 IP
  17. Vreeenom

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    #37
    pmarkov,

    I will try to reply all of your points.
    1. Paid link are rid out by google.
    Google doesn't know which one are paid links and which one are not, I guess you simply don't need to go on pages with "$2 per link" or "buy one get one free", there are many good sites selling for advertising space which will help in your rankings.
    2. Directory submissions.
    You get a list of 300 top dirs submitted for $50, so what kind of improvement you can get for 50 bucks..
    3. article submissions are over for now... Google doesn't put so high accent on article directories anymore, but this linking method is still valuable, because webmasters can find your article and crop it to their website.. with your link in it. And you have a new one-way link from your hand written content page!

    So links can still be added, you can get top ten.. but of course this depends a lot of your keywords, and how hard you want to get there.. time and money, too!

    Thanks
    Dan
     
    Vreeenom, Jun 26, 2007 IP