Article submission question

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by havoc21392, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. #1
    If i want to increase my backlinks using article directories, can i use articles from my blog and copy/paste to different sources or do they have all to be brand new?

    Any info is appreciated.
     
    havoc21392, Dec 4, 2007 IP
  2. Gatorade

    Gatorade Peon

    Messages:
    2,130
    Likes Received:
    222
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #2
    It doesn't really matter. Any article you submit to directories will become duplicate content, it's the link that you're after.
     
    Gatorade, Dec 4, 2007 IP
  3. MichelRobinson2

    MichelRobinson2 Guest

    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    2
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #3
    You can submit one article to different article directories and get link back for those directories.
     
    MichelRobinson2, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  4. SEO_WatchDog

    SEO_WatchDog Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,148
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    115
    #4
    If you submit one and the same article with your link - because of the duplicate content it wil hardly be indexed, but even if it does get indexed - your link will be very weak in terms of seo... So I suggest using a unique article per a directory
     
    SEO_WatchDog, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  5. Hersheys

    Hersheys Peon

    Messages:
    2,591
    Likes Received:
    23
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #5
    It doesn't matter whether it's an article directories, web directories, blog, bookmarking site, forums or related sites as long as the sites is quality sites, it will help you to increase backlinks.
     
    Hersheys, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  6. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #6
    Dont use articles from your own site, simply put you will get outranked for your own content and get hardly any search traffic for the sake of a lousy backlink.
     
    sweetfunny, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  7. prometheus

    prometheus Banned

    Messages:
    880
    Likes Received:
    19
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #7
    dublicate content is not your problem.
    Because all articles will point your page.
     
    prometheus, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  8. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #8
    That makes no difference its still duplicate content on your domain.
     
    sweetfunny, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  9. prometheus

    prometheus Banned

    Messages:
    880
    Likes Received:
    19
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #9
    if google can determine dublicate content, it must also determine the original content.
    if you steal a content from wiki, then wiki doesnt get any penalize.
     
    prometheus, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  10. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    Firstly there is NO duplicate penalty, there is no such thing.

    If you took a Wiki article and the page you publish it on has more authority than the Wiki page you will be the one to rank for search terms related to the article. Also no, Google can't determine the original source.
     
    sweetfunny, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  11. discuss4u

    discuss4u Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    846
    Likes Received:
    9
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    108
    #11
    I partly agree with this. I think the duplicate penalty is based on the concept that you have duplicate contents on the same domain.

    But there is no much problem about this across different sites. Then it will be on the notion of authority ....

    So I think copying articles from our own website is quite risky since the SE may treat the article directories as authority. It will be hard to be authority, esp for new websites, when compared with article sites such as ezinearticles.
     
    discuss4u, Dec 5, 2007 IP
  12. fluid

    fluid Active Member

    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    29
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    70
    #12
    My opinion:

    You publish an original article on your site first, get it indexed by Google. Once it's in Google index, you submit the article to article directories. For Google to know it's duplicate content, it needs to have crawled the article in the first place and it would know it first saw the article on your site. So authority or not, you are the source for this article.

    Google knows the original source else it would be a lame search engine :)

    As far as ranking is concerned, it could be that when you placed the article on article directories, you get outranked because of their authority but that's all to do with so many different factors like inbound links etc
     
    fluid, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  13. orici

    orici Peon

    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    2
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #13
    ^^^
    In wordpress pages are summarised and are partially duplicated. But submitting to articles the whole content article is duplicated.

    would be nice to get a conclusion and best practice

    1. Duplicate content don't matter
    2. Modify your website content before article submission (And to what degree?)
     
    orici, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  14. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    467
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    No, where you publish it first has nothing to do with it, and no Google does not factor the original source.
     
    sweetfunny, Dec 6, 2007 IP
    KC TAN likes this.
  15. ItzSS

    ItzSS Peon

    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #15
    Well how's this for an idea.

    I publish my article to my blog, let google index it. I then submit my new article to technorati, a rss feed, bloglines, a few forums, and maybe SU and del. I give it another day... use an article spinning software and submit to around 250 article directories over the next few days with different links coming back into my site as necessary...

    Good or bad practice? How risky and more importantly how effective?
     
    ItzSS, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  16. KC TAN

    KC TAN Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,792
    Likes Received:
    353
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    155
    #16
    Yes, Google simply decides what is the most suitable page to display to the searcher :)
     
    KC TAN, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  17. fluid

    fluid Active Member

    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    29
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    70
    #17
    Well Google is not so great after all then!

    I thought they would give credit where it is deserved but if what you people say is true, then the algorithm they use is absurd since it's always going to promote bigger sites and push down the smaller ones. My idea of a good algorithm would be one which can determine original source as opposed to duplicated content. Considering smaller sites are not crawled so often compared to larger ones, this would mean that if the article originated from the bigger site, it would have been detected well before it goes on the smaller site and that would be a good way to determine who was the first to publish the original article. I must have been deluded....
     
    fluid, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  18. dreamsubmitting

    dreamsubmitting Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,279
    Likes Received:
    44
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    160
    #18
    Yes you can submit it too, just need to select it in perfect category of that article.,

    Dilpreet
     
    dreamsubmitting, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  19. juvanescence

    juvanescence Active Member

    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    15
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #19
    If you are after back links then rewrite the article so you are not penalised for dupe content.
     
    juvanescence, Dec 6, 2007 IP
  20. ItzSS

    ItzSS Peon

    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    4
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #20
    Rewrite it manually or just spend enough time in JetSpinner for example that you can make it appear like fresh content?
     
    ItzSS, Dec 6, 2007 IP