Article Marketing Automation - Legit or Not?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by spdrus, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have been using Article Marketing Automation (AMA) for about a month and a half now. Before joining and paying the $47/month fee, I did quite a bit of research but it is the information that I was not able to find prior to purchasing as well as my own experience that makes me question whether this was a good decision.

    The software is very easy to use and the concept is great - provide free content and get one-way inbound links in return.

    Here are my problems with AMA so far:

    1) Prior to purchasing there is no way to tell how many blogs/sites within your niche there are for your articles to be placed on and to get links from. Even once you submit your first article, there is no way to tell whether you article will get placed on 1 or 100 websites.

    2) As time goes on, you get statistics that tell you how many websites have approved your article. I spent a good amount of time writing the few articles I've submitted so far and now I feel good about my 97% approval rating and the fact that AMA says that my article has been placed on xx number of blogs. Oh really??? How do I prove it???

    3) It's been about 6 weeks now and I check daily for inbound links to the pages I linked to from within my submitted articles. I check using the 'link:' command in Yahoo and I also check my Google webmaster tools area, which also shows inbound links. Guess what? No inbound links despite the fact that AMA says my article(s) have been approved xx times.

    4) I check my server logs daily and NOT ONCE have I had a referral from any blog or site that I do not recognize. You think out of all these websites where my articles have 'supposedly' been approved SOMEONE would click on my link!

    So what is the conclusion:

    A) It's possible that there is just a delay with the pages from these sites that now display my submitted AMA articles getting indexed in Google/Yahoo etc. But..its been about 6 weeks since my submissions.

    B) It's possible that Yahoo/Google webmaster tools do not display inbound links for a certain period of time so there is just a lag

    C) It's possible that webmasters are 'stealing' my content - whcih is what I would call it IF they are posting my submitted articles BUT removing my embedded links.

    D) It's possible that AMA is nothing more than a random number generator that states, "Your article has been approved ..blah blah blah.." BUT there are no real sites to which your content is being submitted.

    No where have I seen anyone post the QUALITY and NUMBER of sites that they are receiving backlinks from by virtue of submitted articles to AMA.

    I will be the first to admit I'm wrong if all of a sudden I start to see some inbound links from these submitted articles, but after siz weeks, I am starting to wonder if AMA is legit at all.

    Anyone care to chime in?
     
    spdrus, Oct 21, 2009 IP
  2. Jstetson

    Jstetson Peon

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    I think it is better to submit to high pr directories first.
     
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    adacprogramming Well-Known Member

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    Make sure that the title you use for an article is unique. that means before you use the title do a search for the phrase in Google with quotes around it.

    Now write an article and use this title. Once the article gets added to these blogs (as per AMA) wait a day or so to make sure the blog is indexed Most blogs get pages indexed quickly otherwise the blog is of no value to you any way.

    Now do a search for that title, be sure to put quotes around it so that the search only shows that exact set of words. Each result will likely be one of the times your article was used. Now check to be sure your link is on the page etc.

    This will give you the most accurate and quickest way to see how many times your article is really used.
     
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  4. spdrus

    spdrus Peon

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    Already did that.

    My articles do not appear anywhere.

    Can somebody address my actual concerns? That is--HAVE any of you actually seen your AMA submitted articles on another website with links intact?
     
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  5. emigre

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    I tried their free trial when they first launched so I'm not sure if the paid version is any better. But after all my effort in spinning articles to at least 50% unique I find my articles on spam blogs, on spam blogs with links removed or not appearing at all. Didn't work for me.
     
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    its really great idea
     
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  7. tdoggy

    tdoggy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I have. Quite a few in fact. Now as to the quality of the blogs they are posted, well that's another question. I have found a few where the home page did have pagerank in the toolbar, though I would say the vast majority are grey bar.
     
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  8. spdrus

    spdrus Peon

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    Hey td..

    Thank you for answering my question.

    UPDATE: I have now seen one of my articles posted across 5 blogs - this is six weeks later mind you (and not the '57 approvals' this article supposedly had) and the quality of them varied somewhat. One blog DID have a Home Page with PR1 and seemed to be in the same niche.

    Two others appeared to be in the same niche (PR0 or gray Home Page PR) and one removed my link.

    So far, I have seen no major ranking difference by virtue of having these pages linked to, but perhaps over time, my article will appear on more and better blogs and the inbound links will start to have some effect on my SERPs.

    I will keep you all updated, but SO FAR I am not impressed. On the other hand, a link is a link and it's rather difficult to get links to internal pages of one's website. Also, my fear that my articles weren't being posted anywhere now seems unfounded.
     
    spdrus, Oct 22, 2009 IP
  9. weezee

    weezee Greenhorn

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    If I submit the same Articles to more than one Article site, will I be penalize by search engine for duplicate content.
     
    weezee, Oct 22, 2009 IP
  10. Zibblu

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    Yes.

    I test to make sure the article distribution services I use actually work. This is how I do it: I create a new landing page which I then link to ONLY with a specific article which I distribute through a specific service. This way I can check the backlinks for that landing page and be sure that the external links are coming from the article I submitted.

    The first time I did that test with AMA I got 81 external links back with just one article (that was the last time I checked the back links anyway...)

    Another thing I recommend doing if you use this service (or another one like it) is to actually go on the other end of things. Set up a blog where you post other peoples articles. This will let you see how the service works from that perspective. I've done that with AMA and I've actually been pleasantly surprised by the quality of the articles I'm getting (not that I read every one, but they don't look like total garbage.)
     
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  11. simpseo

    simpseo Active Member

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    I'm in the process of using another service for article submission. The question is - how does Google treat these backlinks? You say you got 81 backlinks with one article, but is Google showing all the links when you do a search or is it only showing a select few because it is filtering out some of the articles?

    One thing I have done is to spin the entire article but keep one sentence the same. That way I can Google the article and see how Google is viewing the links and so far it seems to treat many of the articles (the same one spun over 100%) as duplicates.
     
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  12. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that's the case if you are entering something in quotes "" of course Google are going to deliver duplicates and filter some out because you are searching for a duplicate sentence to match your string query.

    This does not mean that they are marking the whole article as duplicate, just the search parameter you specified, and showing your the most authority versions.
     
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  13. simpseo

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    OK gotcha. It is helpful to know which are the most authority versions to get an idea of the quality of the backlinks from the article submission. Your system is doing a great job at distributing the articles, all that remains to be seen is to what extent it is giving my pages a push in the SERPs.
     
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  14. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    The most authority sites should appear higher :)

    It depends on how many articles you are publishing, one article will not make you an overnight millionaire. Article link building should be ongoing.

    Set yourself a target of say 20 articles a month, then after 3 months when they have all had time to be fully crawled and the links begin to age and pass authority you will get a real understanding.
     
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  15. Zibblu

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    With Unique Article Wizard I've done a test where I use a totally unique author name to see how many results end up in Google. I suppose I could put some unique piece of text in my articles and do the same thing with AMA (and others like it) but I haven't done that.

    Anyway, this is the result of that test: http://www.moneymakerjobs.com/unique-article-wizard-see-the-results-for-yourself/151/

    When I put that up there were ZERO results for that search term, now there are a lot. That's from just one article.

    Now does that mean Google is giving a huge amount of weight to each of those links? No... But I think it's clear that Google isn't totally ignoring these articles either.

    As far as overall results, I made $15,000 last month and I rely almost entirely on article marketing (mostly using these distribution services) so, it definitely can work and can definitely give you real results.
     
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  16. weezee

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    I just went to Google and searched and my article is listed in the search on the first page linked to EzineArticles.com. I only submited four article.
     
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    Quick question fo the experts....Is it better/more strategic to have different pen names within 1 article directory or different accounts? Thx
     
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  18. jane_lashly2000

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    If you want to submit one article for more than one article directory, I think it wil automatically be rejected as they check for plagiarism
     
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    Different accounts will stop people spying on every niche you choose to enter.
     
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  20. weezee

    weezee Greenhorn

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    In my traffic status, I see referrer is my article site, I use the same pin on all my articles.
     
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