Article directory sites

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by PinoyIto, Sep 11, 2006.

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    I am planning to start my own article directory site like ezine and goarticles, but the problem with site like this for sure they will have lot of duplicate content from anywhere.

    my first question is does google penalized all article sites using free to republish articles and sites using those free to republish articles? Second question is, is there a way to avoid being penalized by search engine with this free to republish and reprint articles in your sites?
     
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  2. seolion

    seolion Active Member

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    It all depends how popular your site is (in terms of backlinks) and how fast it is updated. Duplicate penalty can come if the same content is used, but you can try few things to avoid it.

    1. Use a unique design
    2. Attach content from feeds to the same page (the lesser the propotion of copied content in the page, the better)
    3. Btter navigation in the site and interlinking.
     
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    Subzero Well-Known Member

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    According to me the duplicate content penalty is just used by google for ranking pages. So your site will not get penalized.

    Might just happen that you don't rank for the dup pages.

    Agree with seolion, feeds and good navigation could help minimize this.
     
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    dddougal Well-Known Member

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    I own an article site and i personally dont get penalised for duplicate content, my traffic is enormous. Iv found this:

    1. Update CONSTANTLY.
    2. Get incoming links.

    steve
     
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  5. PinoyIto

    PinoyIto Notable Member

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    Thanks I may start my own article site I guess :)
     
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    How much uniques do you get to your articles directory a day. I am just asking out of curiosity.

     
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    It gets around 3000 a day, i dont promote it at all, I just update the content daily.

    Iv found the main problem to be that the adsense robots seem to be to lazy to keep up with the rate at which we add the content.

    PM me if ya want any tips matey. The one other thing i can say is that we set up two sites, one using a well known script and the other using the custom made script and only the custom made one survives to tell the tale.

    The well known script one just seemed to stop getting traffic no matter what we did whereas our custom script just keeps gettin more and more traffic.
     
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    RNB80190610 Peon

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    I want to buy copy of your unique script.
     
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    But then it wont be unique.
    Im in the process of writing a script that will be fully customisable.
     
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  10. PinoyIto

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    Yes I agree, I am wondering how can you get those 3000 articles daily. Meaning your site is bigger than ezinearticles and goarticles.com
     
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    Hi,

    I think you mis-read the posts. I had asked how much does your unique traffic does your articles site get a day and he replied around 3000 unique visitors.

    I don't think he gets 3000 article submissions a day.

    Although, I believe there are much more than 3000 articles submitted on the web every day, I don't think he will get all of them.

     
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    seo-mumbai Well-Known Member

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    weblinks dirs or article directorys are special cases for google i think, i,am not sure but they dont treat directorys same as other sites.
     
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    Even if they don't treat them the same, it doesn't really matter to much. Submitting articles to directories is still very good as my intention of submitting articles to directories is mainly so I can gain a little traffic and PR, but also so that other webmasters can reprint them on their own websites.

    The main thing here is webmasters reprinting the articles on their sites that are hopefully of quality.

    So if you don't get much from the articles directories at least you have another chance of gaining pr and links back to your site from general websites reprinting your articles, which were found at the article directories.

     
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    yes that is true if we submit to Ezine article directory, thru RSS feeds our article will we displayed in many small sites and every site add traffic and backlink.
     
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    Article submission to non niche directories is a complete waste of time and people are starting to realize this. Getting a back link on these free article directory sites doesn't hold any weight and is pretty much worthless. Back in the day this helped but not any longer.

    I'm not saying article submission is a waste, but its a waste at any old article directory. If you want it to count submit the article to a niche directory or a site that is about your site. Meaning if you have a gardening site, submit your article to a garden related web site (the popular the better). This is where you will get good solid backlinks that hold weight. A article on a popular related site holds 1000 times better link potential, the any article directory.

    No one reads articles on Ezine articles or other article directories, so traffic you get from these is worthless.

    Creating an article directory is a waste, since I own an article directory I know that 5% of the traffic I get is from the "free" duplicate content articles. The other 95% is from the unique articles for sale on the site. My point is your not going to make money on an article directory with the same content as everyone else. Now... come up with a unique idea and you may have a chance, but a duplicate content article directory is a waste of time.
     
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    Also a site doesn't get penalized for duplicate content, it just doesn't get much attention and may not show up in search results. Basically the page gets over looked by Search Engines if its not unique. The entire site does not get penalized.
     
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    I think you are very wrong here. Some of the largest article directories are the ones that have articles on many topics. The larger the directory the more content they have for webmasters to grab to reprint on their niche sites and also the more popular they are.

    So as you can see, you may not gain much PR or traffic from the non niche article directories themselves, but don't forget that there are lots of people reprinting these articles from these directories and adding them to their own site where some of them will be niche sites.

     
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    Yes, old and big article directorys have good pr huge traffic and lot of small sites with revelant cats will pull rss from it, u can see this in msn/yahoo.No doubt niche directories with specfic topic are good, but new niche sites are not better then old dirs.
     
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    I speak from experience.... Have you ever tried to promote a website by submitting articles to these sites? It doesn't work, I own one of these sites.

    The people that grab free articles for reprint on their own website are small sites that don't know any better. The websites that have a lot of traffic, carry PR, and are popular don't use free article directories for content. There is a reason for this.... Free (non unique) articles don't generate results. Real results are from unique content. Name one large, popular site, with good PR that uses content from ezine articles or a similar article directory?

    Duplicate content doesn't produce results, I have owned sites with 10 unique articles and ones that had 30,000 duplicate articles. The one with 10 unique articles could easily out produce 30,000 non unique. Its only a matter of time before you realize this yourself, if you submit articles to these directories take a look at your traffic. Are the articles you are submitting generating traffic? If they were you would see results pouring in from people using your article from all types of random sites, including ezine articles. The truth is the sites that use your free article from ezine article will either disappear with the first year or learn not to use free articles.
     
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    I can see where you are comming from ConstantContent. You are right when you say alot of sites pick these articles up from ezinearticles that don't know much about web designing, has not had a site for long, put your article on pages that have no PR and put your articles on their own articles directory.

    But don't forget. If you submit your articles to these directories aswell then your site will only benefit from the extra exposure.

    It doesn't take much time to put your article on 50 or so sites. It takes me around 3 minutes using Isnare.

    I don't really use EzineArticles, but will looking into using them soon.

    Also, it depends on how much quality your articles are. Some people tend to write articles that are not all that good, have gramma errors and also have a length of around 250 - 400 words.

    I tend to write articles that has a minimum of 450 words.

    So, I guess you are not getting that much traffic from your articles site then as you say it doesn't work. How much traffic are you getting out of curiosity?
     
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