[ARTICLE] Controversial SECRET To Online SUCCESS - 90% Of Readers WILL NOT Do It!

its not that you disagree...its your own words..you speak of employees, and I am speaking of owners. You give examples of low men on the totem pole, i give examples of visionaries


Let see...waht qualifies me?

i have started and owned (still do) many succesful ventures
I went from being homeless to starting a WEB DEVELOPMENT company and grew it from 0 to 10 employees in 2 years - grossing over a million by the 3rd
I have been trained by business consultants and the #1 marketer in the world to teach others
I have helped 1000s of businesses since 1990 grow their businesses
I am sought after by corporations, organizations, seminars and universities to come and teach what I know
I am often quoted in busines publications and media due to what I know.

i could go on, why not just pick one of the above.

So what qualifies you to dispute what I say?

 

Quite the pissing match

I won't poke too deep but will say this after 12 years of running a media biz:

* You most definitely need to be intimate with your business, on or offline, delegate yes, but only after you've done at least some trenchwork to know how to do your quality control/gage results/know good from bad and why (and no I don't mean Trump hammering boards himself, but if that WAS his strongest skill set, I bet he'd still teach it - kinda like you do here).

* Will agree on the Alexa point < Very shitty metrics - I've grossed 7 figures on small networks without a single site being in the top 100K (it's about conversion mastering prospects not random eyeball volume). I wouldn't use any traffic metrics though, I'd ask to see your campaigns and bank accounts please

* For someone just starting it's damn hard in this field to trust ANYONE. I'd be more inclined to preach that you should appreciate the process of failing yourself first to learn from and grow. You might achieve quick success when people show you some tricks or a biz plan to follow - but shortcuts may end up you not knowing how to react when you dry up (it WILL dry up unless you're going venture capital routes and playing with the big boys, pump/dumps, money flips etc.).

I wouldn't recommend a paid coach AT ALL for the newbie - I don't care what sales floor sells it to you or who's list you got on and were dumb enough to provide a phone number for.. . ... Further I don't think anyone I know that banks well would ever take the time to go teach for money - they wouldn't have the time, they would automate their curriculum or wouldn't give a fack because they have money and projects to worry about.. . ... . UNless, of course, you're already in Belize with 3.5M net banked and do this for kicks?

* It's ok to be an employee first, it's ok to climb the rings naturally, it's ok if you don't have advantage and are the underdog, many of us were at one point and should acknowledge that. If you 'made it', you didn't do it overnight, and you weren't always coached, nor looked up to mentors. Many rebel and know how to analyze well, do war room think tank routines and breed their own success.

* Naturally you'll always look up to people, want to model after them, learn from them, however if they coach, you must know that 'that' is their business, that's what you're paying them to do, is coach you. It doesn't mean 'make you money', it doesn't mean 'guarantee success', it kinda means.. . .. show you the ropes, some examples, some successful campaigns... the more you pay the more they'll tickle your balls with info (sorry to dumb it down like that). I would applaud those that take time to find someone to model after that would be willing to teach you in exchange for tasks or for free, like you did in highschool if you did any co-op placements. Shit I teach and train for free but my objective is different, the success of those i train either makes or breaks me because I train them to sell my products. Once they learn = bye bye they go and sell others, and make their own, and we stay friends/network/grow together.. ... Is that coaching in your opinion? Is that curriculum or just a vendor getting kids to chase nickels for free?

* I also have mentors and those that I look up to, and they are the people that make me who I am today, thus if I phoned any of them and said 'can you coach me? here's $xx,xxx as your best package' < I think they'd laugh in my face to be honest. Just like I do when people ask me. Not because I'm laughing AT them, but because a) I don't have the time and it's not my main goal or bread/butter, but more importantly b) I have money, I have success, if I'm going to help somebody and be a mentor, I'm sure as hell not going to charge for it.

I'm totally not knocking what you do and how you do, but want to give some perspective into the world of 'coaching' as I see it.

Regarding credentials ^ All of that is nice but - what's in your bank? If you showed me a million+ net in your name and have a lifestyle to prove it, and said you'd train me for 5K, I'd bite! But who's going to do something that silly...

Cheers mate, I know you'll come back with a bomb response and all, just wanted to contrast the view points a bit, because you've put a lot of effort into this and should also be showing the other 'non coached success' side as well imo. Teach people to coach themselves, you can't teach yourself to be a surgeon, but you CAN and many DO build success via hunger and passion alone along with their own hidden talents/quirks, and others influence will only distract their 'natural' potential. Most artists weren't taught, the first surgeon had to come from somewhere, trump had a mentor and still lost millions twice now.

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people who do not have/believe in educations don't see a need or even understand what a coach does.

Would you recommend someone who wanted to be an olympic swimmer, being new NOT get a coach?

someone wanting to be a professional ball player...being new..>NO COACH-- trial and error?

those kinds of comments show a mindset that is not worth responding too...they just don't "get it"

 

I'd recommend someone that wants to be a millionaire, to hire someone who is a millionaire.

I wouldn't recommend anyone to be an olympic swimmer, if they asked me for advice I would tell them the truth, I know nothing of your swimming world, but you should contact currently active olympic swimmers.

Starting a business is NOTHING like being a ball player, or swimmer, or surgeon. The principles of learning and absorbing data can and are done in many ways, not just by coaches, and not best by coaches.

**Most coaches also don't use ad hominem in their PR campaigns, no matter how bad it gets.

Like I said, I appreciate curriculum and people that teach others, and schooling. I don't appreciate anyone saying you can't make it without a coach.... and believe me 'i get it' mate, and wasn't coached

 

Out of the 10% who follow the advice, probably only a few become rich. The rest may lack initiatives to make it better or put in lesser effort.

 

of the 10% who follow it nearly all will become rich. The ones who lack initiative or put in lessor effort are the 90% i mentioned that Will not Do what is recommended

 

Great post. It is true, if you fail to plan, then you are planning to fail.

 

isn't that a great quote...so simple and to the point. More important...it is TRUE

 

BusinessCoach,

I liked your article so much that I have posted it on my new forum.
your copyright was left in place to give you credit.

 

Hi BusinessCoach,
I agree that your 4 points are often overlooked, here's another few.

1) Use the 80/20 rule: 80% of your time on traffic and conversions: 20% of your time on infrastructure and setup.
2) Implement what you learn - take action.
3) Stay focused.

Cheers

 

thnks - there is a more current and edited version here:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Controver...S---90%-of-Readers-WILL-NOT-Do-It!&id=2355973

 

Great article. I think it is also important to stay focused on a proven system to make money and not be distracted by all the hype. It is tough to find the system yourself but you can tell what works by seeing what the best in the business are using i.e. list building for marketing makes a lot of sense.

 

Never buy from someone who does not use the same method.

it amazes me how many people buy from "shovel sellers", people who sell things they themselves have not even attempted, much less succeeded in.

 

Now that's an article worth reading a thousand times.

That's exactly what i did a few months back and now i understand the need
for a good foundation and having a mentor who is actually have done what
you what to do.

I'm glad i made that move after years of chasing wild wind.

 

thanks david

isn't great to no longer chase wild winds!

 

Sometimes you can just get mentors for free if you're eager to ask. There are a lot of successful marketers out there who would like to give back.

 

true indeed

 

what's your forum?

 

Get real now, also, true that if you ask it happens, if you read further in the thread I describe a couple instances of where that is exactly how I got people to mentor.

I mentor people each year, but only locally. (I don't find it effective long distance, or virtually)

Also, if someone would "like" to give back...then they DO...if they are not already doing it, they are not the person to bother to ask.

 

Nice tips, it's always a great idea to have a plan in place