Arrest the Pope!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Darpie, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #21
    Freaking psychos man.

    If it weren't for folks like you around here I don't know what I'd do - the support and indifference to pedophilia online is growing; and it sickens me.

    I swear if I were single I'd be all over you, blogmaster and sawz.

    We need more men who are ready to trash the sickos - in all the areas there can be a shade of grey/gray - fucking kids isn't one of them.
     
    alexispetrov, Apr 16, 2010 IP
  2. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #22
    I reported debunked for harrassment, personal attack, I don't know if there has been any effect.
     
    JamesColin, Apr 16, 2010 IP
  3. Breeze Wood

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    #23
    I was thinking their allegations were unfounded and for such a topic a rather drastic conclusion without further probing.

    Glad to see an appropriate response.
     
    Breeze Wood, Apr 17, 2010 IP
  4. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #24
    Still here.

    I hope the agencies in the UK are keeping tabs on you though. I would hope people are keeping their kids far from you.

    Being a parent in this age is hard. I have known too many who are already dealing with issues were their kids have been molested and then you have groups who tell them that sex with 8 year old boys is great. Sick people who are bent on harming kids.
     
    debunked, Apr 17, 2010 IP
  5. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #25
    I think personal attacks on people who are not against pedophilia and the protection of kids is kind of the way to go - if no one treated them like the scum they were then they'd never know that they were horrible people.
     
    alexispetrov, Apr 17, 2010 IP
  6. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #26

    He protected paedophiles? Big deal. Who doesn't?

    Perhaps a clarification of the above would help....Clan mentality aside.
     
    Breeze Wood, Apr 17, 2010 IP
  7. cheburashka

    cheburashka Peon

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    #27
    You got my vote. What a bunch of crooks and hypocrites. Put them all away. Make religion illegal and lets live in the modern world with out this nonsense about virgin birth, humanity being born through incest, 900 year old people building ships big enough to fit a pair of all the animals in the world. How much longer will people believe in this garbage.
     
    cheburashka, Apr 23, 2010 IP
  8. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Just so we all know what we are referring to - here is a translated text of the letter from Ratzinger to Bishop John Cummings, who who has Kiesle in his district & wanted him defrocked.:

    When I look at what I have highlighted in red above, it seems to me that EITHER Ratzinger was afraid that defrocking Rev. Stephen Kiesle would bring attention to the public what Kiesle was doing - molesting children, OR, Ratzinger was afraid of the effect the defrocking Kiesle would have on other priests that were molesting children - which could mean that Ratzinger knew of other existing instances of priest molestations but was keeping them covered up?

    The problem with the first is that is that Kiesle had already been convicted for tying up and molesting two boys in a California church rectory in 1981, so there was no secret to keep!

    Does anyone know if Ratzinger ever explained his reasoning?
     
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    Corwin, Apr 24, 2010 IP
  9. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #29
    Sounds like totalitarianism to me. Make a belief illegal? Sure, if the Bible was to promote the sort of behavior the Catholic leadership was involved, I'd say ban it. But it doesn't. Since that is the case, I'd suggest to focus on facts and crimes. Let people believe what they want and enforce the law on all individuals whether they are high profile politicians or religious leaders.
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 24, 2010 IP
  10. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #30
    What about Understanding, Compassion, Love thy Neighbor, etc? Do you think that's all "nonsense" as well?
     
    Corwin, Apr 24, 2010 IP
  11. cheburashka

    cheburashka Peon

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    #31
    Do you really need a book and a guy in a tall hat and elaborate clothing to tell you to understand, have compassion, and love your neighbor?
     
    cheburashka, Apr 24, 2010 IP
  12. Breeze Wood

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    #32
    Not in the least - and why are they polarizing against Christ who was crucified by the same logic to protect self serving myth over rational humanistic logic i.e. the already discussed convolution that Mary Magdalen was a Prostitute where the priest of their own making is used as a shield than expose their own faults.
     
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  13. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #33
    Why do you go to school? Doesn't everyone need a teacher? How else do you promote Understanding, Compassion, Love thy Neighbor, etc? Wasn't that a truly revolutionary concept that changed history and changed the world - for the better?

    It seems obvious that the answer to your question is a definite YES!
     
    Corwin, Apr 25, 2010 IP
  14. ziya

    ziya Well-Known Member

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  15. Corwin

    Corwin Well-Known Member

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    #35
    I believe I've written this before - I have someone on my family that works for the Catholic Church in an administrative capacity.

    What he tells me is that, at the level of Bishop and above, there is a certain fear in handling these abuse cases. It's not religious, it's more of an organizational cowardice - like many companies today, people were promoted because they "went along" and didn't rock the boat. This isn't a Catholic Church thing, it's more along the lines of today's corporate culture a.k.a Reverse-Darwinism.

    However, on the priest and parish level, there have a zero tolerance for the abuse and are very angry at how the Vatican has handled the abuse cases. If you take a look at what had happened here in Boston, you'll see that the parish leaders often wanted the priest's defrocked, but the Bishops and above covered it up.

    What has me furious is why the authorities didn't convict the Bishops that covered up the abuse cases on Conspiracy charges - maybe even RICO.
     
    Corwin, Apr 25, 2010 IP
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    #36
    I believe that "religious pedophilia" dates back to Babylon and has carried it way through all the way through. And the Catholic church was likely a part of it for ages, but of course back then there was no media reporting on it. I do however recall reading Michelangelo having a 10 yr old boyfriend.
    Then again Muhammed had a 9 yr. old wife.

    So let's call out evil where evil rules, regardless of whose agenda it might benefit or hurt.
     
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  17. cheburashka

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    #37
    Yes, there is definite value in that aspect of religious teachings, but it does not stop there. Too many people out there take the Bible literally and believe in it blindly, which is where my issue with religion arises. There are no absolute truth regarding a lot of the things that have to do with our origin, future, and what happens after we go. Religions typically don't offer any sort of logical explanations for any of this and thus advocate that you have to believe in their views blindly or face the consequences. Is threatening people into a set of believes your idea of understanding, love and compassion? It seems a bit hypocritical to me.
     
    cheburashka, Apr 27, 2010 IP
  18. Corwin

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    #38
    Yes, I completely agree with you, it is hypocritical.

    I think that, personally, my decision-making process got to be a whole lot better when I stopped looking for a God that was so high up and very far away. I first tested, then finally took Christ's word for it that there you need to look out for hypocrites (Mat 23, Mat 24:51), because a hypocrites are liar, and some liars are cowards that will manipulate a situation to intentionally damage others for their own personal gain. There is no greater proof of that than the methods used in Hitler's rise to power.
     
    Corwin, Apr 27, 2010 IP
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    #39
    Great point. There are a couple of issues with people seeking advise from the higher power in certain situations. One can turn to 'the book for guidance", but it was written so long ago that it does not deal with most common issues we are faced with in todays day and age. Others, might turn to the wise men for advise. Which is fine. People have always been seeking advise from their elders. But when those elders are doing the very things that they preach against behind closed doors it just boggles my mind.
     
    cheburashka, Apr 27, 2010 IP
  20. moonwalker

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    #40
    Soap on a rope for the pope.
     
    moonwalker, Apr 29, 2010 IP