Armed Illegal Aliens and Mexican marijuana cartels take over US National Parks

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  1. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #121
    Wow excellent. Change the focus as usual.

    I like when you say tearing families apart, violence, gangs, deaths, billions in tax payers money is worthwhile as long as 1 person is not on drugs 'but the drugs you personally disapprove of' not drugs you are for of course.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #122
    I am against drugs that are against the law. If any of the illegals were made legal fine. People create their own hardship by conducting illegal activity.
     
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    #123
    Um... Maybe its the underlying effects in those areas. Maybe its the shitty schools in Detriot? Ever think of that?

    I come from the 2nd best county for public schools in the nation and I can tell you for a fact that over 80% of the seniors abused alcohol, at least 60% used marijuana, and about 25-40% have used other drugs.

    Drugs aren't the problem.
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #124
    What's the Problem then?
     
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  5. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #125
    Yet steroids that you are for 'going to Mexico' the 'vet' and doctor even when for 'illegal usage' is in fact illegal.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    #126
    3,500 people have been killed in Mexico os far this year in the drug related violence.

    1,000 have been killed alone in Juarez which is on the US border with El Paso.

    As oppossed to the violence prone drug culture, wine is built on thousands of years of traditions. Both wine and beer are nutritious food sources and great substitutes for water.

    [​IMG]
     
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    homebizseo Peon

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    #127
    That's only the people that have been found. The human body decomposes fast in the searing heat along the border.
     
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    #128
    Really Bogart, how 'safe' and 'nonviolent' was alcohol during prohibition?

    Study after study shows the laws are the root cause of the violence not the drug culture.
     
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    #129
    What are the root of problems to drug related crimes, dealing, consumption, robbing, B&E? Yeah common sense would tell you that if you rob someone, for drug money, yeah that's a problem and you are going to jail. Why would States have laws protecting victims? Why can't a person steal? The world is unjust. How barbaric.
     
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    #130
    Almost all caused by the war on drugs, not the actual drug themselves. Until you know something of the subject Homebiz you really should refrain from posting.

    If you rob someone you should definitely go to jail. Your point here would be what exactly?

    When the very fact of the 'war on drugs' is the root cause for much of the crime and creating 'victims' one would think if you had any logic and if you were not a hypocrite you'd be for ending the cause of the situation 'the war on drugs'

    But I forgot drugs you side with are ok, even when illegal, but all other drugs just plain suck and need to be illegal, damn the consequences of such an action.
     
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    #131
    Drug addicts,that are unwilling to work, accumulate wealth by stealing. Sorry BigG, It's not your war on drugs scapegoat scenario. It sounds like g should quit posting.
    yeah, Why should people breaking crimes be put in jail and/or fined.

    I am for enforcing the laws. If you do the crime there are consequences for your action.

    Maybe your Obama will supplement drug addicts income so they will not have to work or steal to shoot, snort, smoke or pack.
     
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    Ahh yes and you leave out all the studies showing the war on drugs is the root cause. Or the fact that the people who are addicted fear getting help as they are 'breaking the law' after all, or the fact that the product is brewed in someones bathtub.

    Do you know anything more than 'drugs are bad?'
    In order to defeat something such as drugs and drug addiction an understanding is needed, something you obviously have no clue about.
    So damn the consequences, damn it if the laws makes things worse. But of course you are also only for enforcing the laws on certain drugs, not on your precious steroids.
    Oh yes, lie some more Homebiz.

    Seriously why do you even try to debate? Please know at least something about a subject before opening that big yap of yours, I'd also ask you to stop lying but I know I can't ask too much at once.


    http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6036
     
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    #134
    Yeah you can almost compare those countries to a country such as the US.

    Who said 'no controls' btw? Education, counseling and other items are key to ending the drug problem. Items your examples do not have ;)

    People in the states force their kids to use drugs as well, just the other week a couple was arrested for having their 2 children smoke pot.
     
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    #135
    Great people steal to get drug money, Great Logic shorty. Yea they are stealing to get brew from anywhere.

    Yes they are illegal and if you get caught you have to do the time or fine.

    poor baby I'm so sorry you are snorting your brains out but by the posting style...who would have thunk

    Laws, who needs laws, raping, murder and pilfering.

    Enforce the law. How dare could someone would want to be a law abiding citizen.

    The word maybe is now a lie. I did not say he will. U Dumb _ _ _

    You are lost with your views but in your condition.
    Not lying at all but you resort to name calling and attacking and making false accusation any time. Sounds like your politician yea that one.

    Why, Why must people obey laws.
     
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    Nice argument, people do in fact steal money for liquor. Hell a minor just killed a lady the other day for beer money. The illegal nature also inflates the prices.

    'Shorty' are you trying to compensate for something?
    So I'll take it as you do not in fact know anything other than 'drugs are bad'
    Homebiz, sorry to disappoint you, I however have never even tried coke, heroine, morphine, crystal meth or any of that shit.

    So you in fact know nothing, yet you have the balls to continue to try to argue on something you know nothing about. All you're doing is showing your ignorance to the world.
    Ahh yes like the laws that once kept woman from voting and blacks from going to the same schools as whites. When laws do not work and create problems, just turn a blind eye, act ignorant like you Homebiz and try not to solve the problems.
    Obviously you do not want to 'see your steroid stance'

    Not all laws are just Homebiz, not all laws make sense. You are acting .like a dumbed down sheep, never question the almighty government as they know best. Even when you in fact know nothing as proven time and time again on a topic.

    Real classy Hoembiz, yet again you calling someone a Dumb _ _ _ by all accounts who is your intellectual superior is only a rip on yourself.
    More lies from you.
    Who is 'attacking' Homebiz you are the one who came into a topic you know nothing about, caught in multiple lies and attacks. I have made no false accusations, I unlike you know something on topics I discuss.
    Yep lets go back to keeping woman from voting, hell lets bring the British back to rule us. Hell any law that is there should remain the same, even when proven it creates more problems than it solves. Hell why would anyone want to improve society!
     
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    #137
    Who needs laws

    compensate? What are you talking about now?

    So I'll take it as you do not in fact know anything other than 'drugs are bad'

    Huh?

    You are showing your ignorance and it's quite amusing

    Who needs laws?

    What wrong with legal steroids. nothing
    More insults. Attack and insults



    No not at all.
    you attack and lie often.
    ,strange logic in a drug thread

    In a drug thread?

    . Add the death penalty more
    That is apparent by your views on drugs.


    Baiting, Attack and insults and the report post. Quite liberal like the Obama media.
     
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    I wouldn't hey? Oh please homebiz I am much more into ones face 'face to face'
    I guess you must be talking about 'pot' when you are talking about 'growing' I guess just like so many grow their own tomatoes as it's cheaper and easier to grow their own tomatoes than to buy them from a professional.

    Most other drugs take far more than 'growing' a substance. You've never studied prohibition have you?

    Yes laws that don't work and create problems should never be addressed. Woman, how dare they question not being able to vote.

    Our forefathers, how dare they throw a tea party.

    Blacks, they want to go to school with our own kids. Damn those lawless.

    Yes time for a :rolleyes:
     
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    #139
    It is an interesting subject though a bit controversal. It would be nice to hear what all have in their thoughts with regards to the subject. Kinda pity to have it closed. Certainly hope that the esteemed members keep comments on individual members to a minimum and concentrate on their views instead.

     
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    The recreational drugs are only part if the drug problem that the US has with Mexico. Every day Americans bring banned or precription only substances into the US. What will making banned or 'prescription only' substances legal do to solve the drug problem?

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_y...LYF?slug=ap-cansecodetained&prov=ap&type=lgns
     
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