Are You Ready For World War III

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by wazimm, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #341
    Seem like he really lost it. A perfect match to go hand in hand with Iran.
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #342
    He's just drumming up votes to try to get Venezuela the next rotating seat on the U.N. security council. He's trying to appeal to the numerous Islamic nations and the even more numerous third world nations which are failing due to their corrupt government-run economies.

    Chavez has stated that the U.N. is out-of-date and irrelevant. If Venezuela gets a seat on the U.N. security council, they will do nothing but make a mockery of the whole U.N. system.

    Which, come to think of it, could be the best possible thing -- in the long term. The U.N. is out-of-date and irrelevant. Let's tear it down and build an organization which serves a useful purpose in the modern world.
     
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  3. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #343
    Third time lucky huh ;)

    I can't see it happening, the only organisation that could be more effective that the UN would if countries agreed to pass a level of their exective power over to it. Not many would be happy to sign up to that and fewer would actually abide by that.
     
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  4. latehorn

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    #344
    I agree on tearing UN down but don't ever bring it up again.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #345
    About the only thing the UN has going for it now is a cool building. Other than that it is run by an inept group of ingrates hell bent on making money for themselves.
     
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  6. MattUK

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    #346
    Funny that, considerting they're politicians :p
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #347
    so true...
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #348
    It certainly is. It's pretty sad too....
     
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  9. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #349
    Sad, but nothing new.
     
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  10. Rick_Michael

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    #350
    We need a UN, just not the way it is.
     
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  11. hextraordinary

    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #351
    We need a global humanitarian organization. The UN failed in anything else it tried to do. The only global force that made a difference in any other field was NATO.
     
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  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #352
    No, what we need is an organization that will actually enforce its own resolutions. This is where the UN fails.
     
    Mia, Sep 21, 2006 IP
  13. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #353
    When the U.N. first started, did they know that they would be over run by Israel hating countries? Or was this the plan from the beginning?

    I love the countries they allowed to be apart of the human rights watch... :eek:
     
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  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #354
    I am pretty sure that was the plan from the on set... I mean come on, everyone knows Jews are bad. :rolleyes:

    It is interesting that the very countries that violate human rights are in charge of watching out for them.

    What is even more amazing is to see Hugeass Chavez speak FREELY, at the UN, where he knows he can, meanwhile his countrymen are not allowed the same right.

    Hell, if Hugo wanted he could stand up in the middle of Yankee Stadium and freely speak his mind. THAT IS AMERICA!

    Meanwhile, back at home, his citizens are not afforded that same courtesy.


    I think the Urban Dictonary pretty much spells out what the UN is all about:

    1. UN
    An ever-increasingly irrelevant group of nations whose widespread corruption is coming to light.

    The UN's time is passing. Can you say "Oil-For-Food"?


    2. UN
    An organization based on the principles that:

    1. Asking your laws to be followed in a polite manner will get you listned to.

    2. The USA should have as much say in world matters as Suriname or the Neitherlands.

    3. That China and Libya should lead a Human Rights Commitee.
    The UN, you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
     
    Mia, Sep 21, 2006 IP
  15. Rick_Michael

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    #355
    I think it gives too much of a reputation to idiots, and as you say it doesn't enforce their resolutions. I believe there should be an organization that holds a solid agreeable standard of human decency (not based pure idealogy) in government interactions with each other and their people; and the higher your on that reputable standard, the more say you have in say.

    People have to continuely talking to each other (as I'm sure if we stop we start going to war), but Iran and North Korea aren't are equals, and shouldn't be looked upon that way...much less Venezuela.
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #356
    The trouble with the UN not enforcing its resolutions is that people, terrorists like Chavez, Kim and AmanIraniandumbdumbabooba, see that they do not mean business and will back down, or just come up with another resolution if no one reacts. What the UN needs to do is use an actual show of force. Without backing up their resolutions, the resolutions are completely meaningless.

    The US helped them out a few years ago of course by actually citing UN resolutions, some 14 of them I believe (perhaps more) before invading Iraq and putting our money where the UNs mouth was.

    The UN treats these nations like spoiled children. They threaten to punish them or take their toys away, but never actually do it. What kind of parent is the UN?
     
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    #357
    I understand that they will be replacing Kofi pretty soon. Maybe Chavezaroonie wants the job.

    I recently read an article that profiled Chavez. It said that he drinks 20 cups of coffee per day and harldly sleeps at all. That probably explains a lot.

    I agree that we need some type of worldwide forum for mutually resolving issues, but the UN has proven itself to be utterly useless.
     
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    #358
    What do you think everyday life is.
     
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    #359
    What's not taken in account, though, is other countries barely have a military to account for. Most of Europe spends their money on healthcare, and they don't have enough for a reputable size military.

    lmao@ the amandadjkakdjfk ....

    If they were serious enough, we should have had action a long time ago...and it should have been by all the binding countries...but the UN is far from ideal in making those things happen. They're all talk...don't get me wrong, though, because I think talk and diplomacy are also important.

    It would be nice to rewind history, and throw a bit more libertarian-like views in Europe...with a taste of practicality in having a military. I suppose we didn't want them to re-arm, because they have a tendency to go war before we marched through.
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

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    #360
    Russia, France, and China are all moving the world closer to World War III by sitting on their hands and letting Iran build nuclear weapons to eradicate Israel.

    Iraq will finish their nuclear weapons development and then Israel will cease to exist.

    Of course, that this won't be a true "world war". It will be larger than your run of the mill regional conflict, but it won't escalate into a real world war.

    Why not? Because when the U.S. makes it perfectly clear that we are ready to accomplish regime change and modernization in Iran --- no nation will stand in our way.

    The Iranian leadership has already announced that it considers it's own casualties in this conflict unimportant compared to the goal of killing the Jews. The Iranian government wants this to happen, and they are doing what is necessary to make it happen.

    After the nuclear attack on Israel, the U.S. will have the choice to attack Iran or to let the Iranians get away with it. I only hope that we have a Republican in office when we have to make that decision.
     
    Will.Spencer, Sep 21, 2006 IP
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