Are we heading towards a matriarchal society

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by minute, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. #1
    After watching a movie recently titled "Into a Savage Land" it struck me that we could be moving towards a matriarchal society.

    They have existed before in history and locations.

    Are men destined to become sex toys and sperm donors for powerful women.

    Social fragmentation of the family unit as occurred in the sixties and has created a confusion.

    I don't mind this as long as the chicks with the pseudo-canackers will wear a label so I don't get sucked in.

    Sorry but somethings wrong. Anyone else feel it?
     
    minute, Mar 20, 2007 IP
  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Yeah. I'd stop watching movies if I were you :D
     
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    Dubz Peon

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    I say we live in a Democratic Monarchy. Where it's technically "demoratic" but it's not. The classes are shifting where like 13% of the annual wealth of the year funnels through less than 1% of the population. These people have no "nation" and instead are spread out through the world often not paying taxes due to there "arrangements". We are moving towards one; they make the decisions we have a "democracy" to keep the peons from revolting. Revolting isn't it?
     
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  4. Josh Inno

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    A big part of this is that the lobbies, special interest groups, and companies are gaining more and more of the ears of our representatives.

    The various representatives are also in session in congress for the majority of the year, and so have no other way to make money than through their salaries, and special interest donations. In congress, where they get something like 100,000 per year, this isn't a problem. In local states, where they make less than I do at a wage job, and don't get benifits, this is more of a problem.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    This is the problem with the many weak minded individuals out there....how do you think Al Gore got such a following about the (non) issue of Global Warming?? Sounds to me like you need to stop watching movies...
     
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  6. Josh Inno

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    However, unfortunately, there is a great deal of over-reaching PC (political crap) going on in the gender Arena. Most of the Feminazzis are not fighting for equality, but rather for superiority in the political arenas, a cause that is costing them a lot of their more moderate supporters.

    Men are being told that they have all sorts of perverted urges which they are inferior for not being able to help having, and then are told that such urges are evil and they shouldn't be able to have any of them, both reinforcing the mentality, and vilifying it. Feminazis are crying out that it is the evil of men that causes most of society's ills, especially rape. However, and I don't have links to the articles, I've been informed that there are studies out there that show that the more power the PC feminazi movement gets, the more of these problems society has.

    To clarify, I'm not against women wanting or having equality. What I am against is having any kind of traditionally masculine thought both expected and vilified.

    To cite an example in the entertainment section of the Media. A psychologist was speaking to two lawyers "To a large extent the modern man has been" and then he was cut off by the female lawyer who said "If you say castrated, I'm leaving." The psychologist held out his hand, and indicated that his point had been made by the female lawyer.

    I am also against women insisting upon both exclusive rights to traditional feminine privileges -and- all previously masculine privileges in society at the same time.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Minute look at our society today. This breakdown of the family unit happened 20 years ago. Its only gonna get worse. 65% divorce rate almost makes a person glad to be single. Where is teh family, where is the bonding Isnt this a shame ?
     
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  8. Josh Inno

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    Well a large part of that is that in a two family household the parents both have to work in order to make ends meet most of the time. They spend most of their time working, sharing chorse, ect, and they don't even always have concurrent work schedules. People marry based on sudden passion, don't see each-other, can't take care of their children as well due to both of them having to work, and then we wonder why they break up.

    There are some positive sides to the increased divorce rate. Due to decreased social stigma, there are now more couples that divorce rather than staying together unhappily only because they would be social pariahs otherwise. Less people staying with abusive or cheating spouses only for that reason.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Yea Josh but what about trying to work things out. All i see is one minute they are married the next they are separated. Its almost like marriage has become a piece of paper. Why do they have to get married? Why not just live together? Like i said , we live in a me, myself and i society and this is where people learn not to love each other.
    Till divorce do we part?
    Opps meant death
     
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  10. Josh Inno

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    Now that I could see more of. But in some cases one member of the relationship doesn't want to work it out.

    If two people get married, and spouse 1 cheets, spouse 2 tries to get spouse one to give up cheating and go to couples therapy, but spouse 1 refuses, what is spouse 2 to do?
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Josh this is why i feel that there needs to be a reducation of men in our society. Most cheating is done by men( i know im gonna get slammed for this lol). Also if women are also in the workplace who is gonna bring up the kids properly? I mean say it all u want guys but no one and i mean no one has the bond with a baby moreso than the person who helped to bring it into this world. If these 2 things were fixed again i feel it would go along way to bringing back the family unit again.
    Come on people i know some of you are gonna bring the heat on me for this response so lets rock lol
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Yep, it is a shame. This was about the time of the soccer mom liberal movement. No accountability for anything, removing corporal punishment from our schools and the dawning of the age of self-loathing and personal victimization with no responsibility for one's own actions.

    This is what liberals have brought us. Lack of responsibility for one's actions and no accountability for anything, as everything has a "sthensthitive" reason why it should be given a pass.

    Back in my day (hell, even your day...you're just a few years younger than I am), we had corporal punishment. To this day, I remember three swats I got from Mr. Chapman in the hall for using "less than profanity" in class at school. We didn't have all this gun shooting BS. At worst, a Bato might bring his mom's kitchen knife to school, or Jesse Quintana brought some brass knucks to school to kick another kid's butt once (the kid deserved it too!). We handled problems like men, back then.

    20 years ago, you didn't see all this whiney liberal crying in the daily news. Punk anti-establishment kids that pissed on their country got their ass kicked, though it was rare to ever even see such disrespect.

    Times, they are a changing...and not for the better.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Disagree on this one. I recall reading something last year that showed it was pretty equal. Women are not as innocent as we might want to believe they are. If you want to keep a woman happy, pick up a book called "His Needs Her Needs." May sound corny, but the secret lies within that book. Once you know, it can/will change your life :)
     
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    I was never convinced either. I've been hearing that all my life from the feminist media but I think its BS. I think about 20-30% of paternity tests show the women were unfaithful and thats a huge number. Since time began men have been unknowingly raising the children of the men their wives cheated with. No woman has ever unknowingly had to raise a child that wasn't her own.

    Men have always had to bear the responsibilty for his own cheating and a womans cheating but not vice versa. Very recently we started to get affordable DNA testing and this should change. Men should claim a little reproductive power which they never could before.
     
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  15. Josh Inno

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    I call Bullshit. If you want to claim that most cheating is done by men, prove it.

    And currently, if a woman in wedlock cheats, and gets pregnant, the man who was married to her, even if he divorces her before the child is born, and can prove that the child isn't his with a paternity suit, currently has to pay child support.

    The woman also decides all on her own whether the child is born or not, she has the ability to give up or insist on responsibility for the child for herself, the child's father and (in the case when they are not one and the same) also the man she was married to at the time.

    And in the unlikely event that a woman would be attracted to a fat, wierd fellow like me enough to have a child with me some day, I would be okay with being a stay at home dad if she had a career. One of the jobs I would love to do at some point is to be a college professor. That kind of job lends it's self well to being a stay at home dad, as if I taught evening classes, I could grade papers, write tests, do research, ect, during the day in between taking care of the little one. And my wife could be home for the child in the evenings. If I had to teach a day class or two, or have office hours, many universities offer built in child services where I could leave the little one for that hour or two, then immediately pick him or her up afterwards (and after the inevitable after class chats with the students that need help on a particular concept, or that want to explore concepts beyond the scope of the class).
     
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    Gtech, I agree with both responses. Hey this isnt fun lol hehehe
     
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    I don't mind that part I just resent becoming a slave worker (tax payer) to a socialist state that forces me at gun point or threat of imprisonment to slave away in order to further their reproductive agenda.

    If the government decides to implement a program (and they do it all the time) that says we should reduce the number of race/ethnicity A and increase the number of race/ethnicity B (AKA "diversity" "reparations" "equality"or whatever the code word is this week) and that I need to pay for it by sponsoring a "queen bee" with my hard earned money, I am essentially becoming a socialist drone (worker bee) who is taking part in a kind, gentle and subtle government sponsored genocide of whatever race/ethnicity/group is unpopular with the powerful "special interest groups."

    Every society has some matriarchy. Those who deny it are of the queen bee variety who want to deny it so that they can have more of it.


    Since the originator of the thread mentioned a movie about matriarchy I saw one from new release from blockbuster this month call The Wicker Man with Nicholas Cage and while the movie itself sucked it was about this very subject.
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    How about a government incentive for stay ay home moms. This way the family unit will get stronger and keep our kids off the streets away from drugs, gangs and violence?
     
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    only moms should stay at home?
     
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    We have that its called rental assistance, food banks, welfare, SSI, medicad, medicare, AFDC, food stamps and about a hundred other programs and it leads to moms cutting out fathers because its more lucrative to get on the dole.

    How bout we stop penalizing companies for hiring too many men (more accurately too many white men) and allow poor men to earn a wage good enough to compete with the other father, The US Governement.

    It is way too profitable to have different fathers with multiple babies (different daddies=multiple streams of income and a diversified portfolio:) and lie about it to your social worker so you can pay $50 a month rent, collect SS checks for yourself and each baby, along with free groceries plus you get to stay at home and watch Oprah on the big screen your next babies daddy just bought you for sleeping with him.


    Playin the system and making sure a woman can make an equal wage is much more important than ensuring a man can make a liveable wage for a family.

    Liberals decided to do away with all that nuclear family "crap" decades ago.

    Men are sperm donors and worker drones for " The Socialist System" now. Just get em pregnant pay your damn taxes and shut up! Its profitable.


    If you don't want to play that game the US government has nice 4x8 room reserved for you.
     
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