Are these pictures real? (Warning - Graphic)

Some say elvis is alive. Some say jesus is the son of god. Some say the zionists are behind 9/11. Some say the holocaust never happened.

Researchers and historians say that the death toll among jewish victims in the holocaust is around 6 millions, with standard deviation of 1 million.

 

It depends which historians and researches you listen to, doesn't it.

 

Sorry if I bother you, I feel its my duty to teach you this very introductory lesson about the death camps (which were just part of the holocaust).

The Nazi death system was composed of two "departments":
1) In mainland europe, the final solution was implemented according to the wannsee_conference. The jews were first deported from their homes to ghettos, concentration , and forced labour camps. Then, community by community, they were sent to the death camps, a total of six camps, located in Poland. Everything was ordered, and well documented by the nazis themselves. The gas, Cyclon B, made by the German company IG Farben (IG colors in English), was pouring from taps at the top of the chamber. All the jews in the chamber, who were told to undress before taking a shower, suffocated to death. The process lasted several minutes. The "showers", which still exist today in Aushwitz, had thick steel walls, so that the jews who were outside will not hear the people screaming from the inside.
After everybody suffocated to death, a back door opened, and jewish force labour workers removed the bodies for burning.
One of the men who did this terrible job was invited to my school (when I was in high-school some 14 years ago... he already passed away). From this talk I can't forget how he explained that always when they got inside, the bodies were a big pile in the center, although there was a lot of space in the chamber. This is because the gas was heavier than the air, so people climbed on one another to breath.
Before burning the bodies, they were forced to remove any "valuables belonging to the 3rd reich" such as golden teeth (were deposited in swiss banks), glasses, etc'. 5,000 jews were murdered every day in the gas chambers of Aushwitz alone during 1942.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp#Operation_of_the_camps

I dont know if I should laugh or cry after that question of yours.
Aren't the people who lived to tell the story, the gas chambers and crematoria (where the bodies were burnt) that still exist, the hill of human ashes, that stands today where Treblinka was standing, enough to call it a proof? what else do you need? hitler coming personally to confess to you?

2)
In the eastern front (soviet union), there were no death camps. It was financially costly to transfer the jews to poland for extermination. Instead, the Nazi establish four units, called in German Einsatzgruppen (German for "action team" (i speak German) whose sole responsibility was to follow the advancing military, gather the jews in the recently occupied territories (whose names and addresses they already had, the German were incredibly efficient and ordered), and simply murder them in woods and mass graves.
Maybe the most famous of all was Babi Yar, where the parents of my grandmother and all of her sisters were murdered.

 

Oh my god i have no words for this

 

It is awfull. i feel sorry for them. But what lesson should the world have ? We must not let it happen again, not to Jews , not to any other nations. because victims doesnt have nationality.

About numbers.. it is not clear yet how many died in there. At least there are few approach to holocaust is wrong :
1- To use holocaust to make platform for any further acts
2- To use holocaust numbers to make others to sympotize Jews . Just only because there have been killed many Jews
3- To arrest others who deny the holocaust or who question the holocaust (the scale and the scope of the holocaust) http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1320420 It restricts researchers to research it deeply and question

 

Again, it is not clear, indeed. But the correct number ranges between 5 to 7 million jews. The jewish people lost the highest % in WWII, but not the highest number: in WWII, 21 million russians die (but not in death camps)

People who deny the holocaust are, as a rule, jew/Israel/both haters, whose hate shuts off their logical thinking. In Wikipedia Holocaust Denial is tagged in the group: "Antisemitism". I recommend that you read the section "Examination of claims" in the holocaust denial page.

There is not even 1 world renowned scholar historian or intellectual which doubts if it existed or not. Wasn't what I said in the previous posts in the thread enough to convince you?

There are several countries, including Czech republic, Germany, and Austria, where holocaust denial is a crime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial. Isn't this another sign, that the holocaust is true? or does the jews and zionists also control romania, lithuania ( <-- a country which helped a lot to kill jews) , Czech, etc'?
Personally, I am against legal penalties for holocaust deniers. They just make very little sense. Outlawing holocaust denial is pretty much like outlawing stupidity: we wouldn't want half of the world population to be in jail, wouldn't we?

 

Victims of Zion- On Holocaust. Even Jews too

For example : -Francois Duprat
Killed for distributing the French language version of "Did Six Million Really Die?"

A French writer, historian and educator, Duprat had introduced the booklet "Did Six Million Really Die?" in France by publishing the first French translation. He also published "The Mystery of the Gas Chamber." He was only 38 years old when his car was blown up by a bomb and he was assassinated on March 18, 1978. His wife, who was with him in the car, lost the use of her legs in this terrorist act. Two Jewish groups took credit for the assassination - the "Jewish Remembrance Commando" and another group who identified itself as ". . . Jewish Revolutionary Group." The assassins were never found.

 

Yes those photos must be real.... It shows brutality in the highest level....

 

Ziya, I don't think you read my post when I started this thread. Save your "But Zion did this" rant for one of the 200 other threads on this forum and focus on the topic of this thread which is specifically did the Holocaust happen and are those pictures evidence?

I can appreciate that your list of "Victims of Zion" site is relevant insofar as those "victims" were people who claim the Holocaust story wasn't entirely accurate. In that spirit, let me ask you a question. Do you choose to believe a revised story about the holocaust, and if so, which one (Each of those revisionists had a different flavor of revision to add). Or, do you believe the story as it exists in the history books, as put to print by tens of thousands of eye witnesses and verified by mountains of printed documentation? All you said was you felt sorry for them.

 

Discussion about numbers of victims began before me . there were discussions that do numbers of victims mean or don't . Of course it doesn't mean how many were there victims 6 million or 300000 or 1 million . But it is clear that the number meant for some one much more , The anonymous power killed those who were asking did 6 million died , and who were asking about gas chambers !

It is up to you believe or not, but I really feel so sorry for the victims. It is horrible !

Have you watched the iranian Holocaust movie ? I guess you have not watched

 

Britannica tags Duprat in the definition of Neo Fascism (go down to "France"). Wikipedia tells the following about Francois duprat

If Jean-Marie Le Pen (I hope you know who this is?) pays so much "respects" to racist, fascist Duprat, It is highly likely to believe, since they share the same ideaology, that they would agree on most other issues. For example, the muslims in France?
I am pretty sure that if he was not a "victim of the zionists" (LOLLLLLLLLLL ), you would expect from Duprat today to say things like: "The muslims, and especially the millions of turkish people, are a great danger to france and to europe". When he was assissinated in 1978, the massive islamic immigration waves to europe did not start yet, so he could not hate the muslims living in France. This kind of person must have somebody to hate. So it were the good old jews (600,000 of which live in France)......

Are you sure that he is a role model for Le-Pen and a hero for you too? isn't there a limit to the absurd in your political opinions? Is your hate towards Israel so strong to make you kiss with your own enemies? . This is so sad.

Besides, he was murdered by some kind of French jewish organization. Its interesting, I have never heared this story. But ziya, admit it, if there would be a racist politician in Germany, always saying that the turks are shit, how sorry would you be if the turkish people in germany would take him down? I know your answer, and this is exactly how much I feel sorry for Duprat. It is very absurd, in my view, that you do.

I don't see any connection to Israel, though.......

That's great for my effort to warn the western world, and explain them what is Iran!
I would like to see it. Is it available on the web?

 

But he wasn't killed just only because he was enemy of Turks or what ever else. He had been killed for denying Holocaust .

I am sorry I couldn't found it on web . Do you know persian language ? I will post a link when I will find it .

 

unfortunately, are real, but now are used for policy.

 

I know some arabic (and spanish and german and russian and english and hebrew )... but that's just the same writing system with a totally different language... But please do send the link. I was living 3 years in Switzerland where I met two Iranian people that are now friends of mine. They will translate.

 

The Holocaust is nothing compared to what will happen to the Israeli's now that they have lost their only friends on Earth, the United States.

The Pax Americana is over and the middle east will be the first region to feel the pain of our planets new dark future.

Some people thought that one world government was the worst thing that could happen. They are about to discover just how wrong they were.

 

Due to harsh treatment, lack of food and poor conditions pretty much all the prisoner camps run by the Soviets and Nazis were death camps.

 

I suspect the Soviets killed more Jews than the Nazis... both during and after WWII...

 

There's not much difference between the Soviets (international socialists) and Nazi's (national socialists).

Both groups believe that group rights trump individual rights; Either group achieving power leads to similar results.

 

The Soviets did not single out the Jews for persucation. The Soviets even established a Jewish homeland in the The Jewish Autonomous Oblast in the Russian Far East.

The Jewish population of the Soviet Union numbered in the millions until the fall of the Soviet Union.

 

dresden..............