Are the DMOZ editrors truly at the switch?

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    #22
    We continually say that we are not a listing service for site owners. We do not approve sites, we either use them or don't. We do not set out as editors to list as many sites as possible from the suggestions pool. It is only one of our sources and editors have to choose to use that source. If you check up here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Pu1YWcIh04 you can see the model of directory that Matt Cutts likes and the model is not one that approves most/all submissions. Ours is only a suggestion.
     
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    #23
    LOL man, if you are "lookinbg" for "diirectory" then you should told me what you mean by "diirectory" first.

    No, AMRAY "diirectory" is not in DMOZ any longer.
    But you know why not at this point already after our previous discussion (in 3 different threads in 2 different forums)
    I'm not surprised your lack of memory is preventing you from remembering my detailed explanation or you would
    never ask me again and again why AMRAY is not listed in DMOZ

    Would you like me to PM you links to these threads so you can refresh your memory?

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    #24
    At last we have established what I was saying, that you could not get your site listed in DMOZ and that was the reason for the issue you have. You have clearly pointed to the fact that you have extensively discussed the matter and in another thread I have pointed out that in RZ you were told that your site was not to be listed because it carried DMOZ material without correct attribution. I have always been aware that other Amray sites were listed. If correct attribution were given on the directory I guess it would be listed too. We were created to give our data away free, but only within the licence and that any material drawn from DMOZ should be credited to DMOZ.
     
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    #25
    How can you ask for any attribution if you, I mean DMOZ doesn't own that data and itself in violation of Copyrights.
    I hope you are not saying that we have to give attribution for a pirated date DMOZ call the RDF

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    #26
    http://www.dmoz.org/license.html
     
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    #27
    @Anonymously

    LOL, it reminds me debates in forum where guy would sight in his replies verses from Bible and nothing else.

    OK, let me ask you something.
    In your estimation, what are the percentages of sites in DMOZ index added by users and editors?

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    #28
    Users can't add sites to DMOZ, they can only suggest sites, editors add sites. So editors add 100% of the sites that are added to DMOZ.
     
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    #29
    OK, lets play your game.

    How many of "added by editors sites" in your estimation, came from suggested sites bin and
    how many sites editors added to index using outside sources, the one you never stop talking about?

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    #30
    What's the point in speculating about something that DMOZ does not collect any figures for and it has no interest in, how valuable would that be?
     
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    #31
    At least you are not denying the fact that data has been collected and then added to Index
    using outside sources, I mean others than Pending Bin.

    OK, I will make a wild guess and you tell me how far I went off your estimated number.
    I'll say the number of inclusions that came from outside sources is 80% of sites.
    How my doing?

    Oh yah, what's the point...? Well, I can promise you, you will love it after you find it but...
    that is of course if you really honest man and live by the truth.

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    #32
    Hello I have a small colorado business directory that I am trying to get listed. Is there anyway to check the status? I submitted it last March or April I believe. I am not sure if maybe I should submit it again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Thank you!
     
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    #33
    Status checks are not provided, your suggestion may or may not be reviewed in due course. You can do no more, move on and promote your site through other methods.
     
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    #34
    coco511, Pay one of snooks bosses in DMOZ through one of freelance sites about 100 dollars and your site will be listed in a timely manner of less than 10 days. ;)
     
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    #35
    We make no secret of the fact that we use many sources one of them is the suggestions pool, seems that it is one of the reasons Google actually likes us, check out the interview I quoted here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1757655&page=2#post13964979 but you will have done that already, I am sure you do read the threads thoroughly before posting.

    But as I said, as to ratio I have not got the faintest idea, I don't know how many sites Snooks or Jim Noble even list, let alone the sorces they use, so how is anyone going to guess what several thousand editors do? As I also said DMOZ do not collect those figures.

    Amray directory seemed very happy to use a great deal of our sites and material so why are you trying to put a bad spin on DMOZ?
     
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    #36
    OK, will you then at least admit that editors added thousands of links they found
    somewhere else but in suggested sites bin?
    You are bragging about your (editors) activities all over Internet including this Forum,
    so the question is how many sites you found somewhere else and then added to DMOZ index?
    1,000? 500? 100? Give me some number.

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    OK thank you
     
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    #38
    Sorry my stats at DMOZ are not recorded in any way that offers that information and I am absolutely not interested so, forgive me, I won't bother to go through my last years editing and try and count them.

    But please answer my question about why Amray used a great deal of DMOZ material but yet you want to slag it off. You must do a lot of damage to your directory that way.
     
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    #39
    Well, at least we know now that you added more than 1 site, which you found somewhere else,
    or 2 sites owners never ask you to add to DMOZ Index in a first place.

    Am I right about these 2 owners never made request for inclusion?
    I tell you what. If you're having problems to say 'yes' or 'no', then just
    post one green dot for Yes and 2 red dots for No

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    #40
    DMOZ usually accept non commercial websites. One of my website http://www.agrians.com is listed in it because i'd started it as a free service for students.
     
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