Hi, I am probably just going to prove how much of a novice I am, but are SEOs maintaining a very large number of sites on various servers / services to link to every new site of theirs? I see that many sites start on day one with hundreds of links to them. Barring some cases, I would assume that there was a systematic link campaign that leaded to this. In addition to swaps, purchased links etc, I feel that a lot of SEOs must have a big portfolio of sites they maintain for the primary purpose of linking. Am I right? Thanks Ajeet
Most of us use software like this: Edited by me to remove link at the request of the prgrammer. (No, that is not my site and am not affiliated with the guy) I use his software and a few others. His stuff is pretty good. Max
Really I just visited and found a bunch of stuff that I would have thought was highly illegal (as in violating of TOS of various search engines). Have I really been a babe in the woods all this time Ajeet
MOST OF US MY ARSE. I am not capable of speaking for most of us, but I CAN speak for myself. I have amassed a database of thousands of sites of various descriptions that are happy to trade relevant links, I have them in a search engine, I type in the keywords and it spews out relevant sites.. I also have a spreadsheet of hundreds of directories that we manually submit to. I do NOT use any autosubmition tools, make sure that links to new sites are where the spiders are, and THAT is one of the things my clients pay me for. Jesus I wish people would not speak for 'most of us' when they do not even know 'most of us'
Forgive the lack of decorum, but on first read, I though you were saying MOST OF US USE MY ARSE and I went WHAAAAT Ajeet
I for one definitely do not use this type of marketing. You get to know the directories and people that you can gain links from. At the start you'll just have to take those many hours trying to find those precious links.
The problems with small or new directories is that they are very low PR and not many of them are indexable. Your best bet is to get the list of 4000 forums from OOOMOOO.COM and register in each one, put your link in your signature and post something worthwhile and move on to the next one... Besides, most forums already have good PR and an audience for your sig link
PRBot: My testing has proven (to my satisfaction) that the Google PageRank and relevancy algorithms are discounting forum links 100%.
I've seen your posts on this subject, Will. I believe your test was to post messages in forums and test whether the anchor text used in your signature would help improve the SERPs for that search phrase ... correct? If you wouldn't mind ... could you PM me some of the test links so I could add them to the footer on some of my forums and let's see what happens? I have never really cared about the power of my sig links for PR or SERPs but we have quite a bit invested (time, energy, dollars, etc) in large forum sites and we're doing our own tests right now ... but would like to use your test links as well...
well they still produce backlinks http://www.floridakeysfishing.info/florida-keys-fishing-videos.php chekc the backlinks all from sig links
Again, I ask you to prove it. In your case, all that they have done is get you a reputation for spamming various forums. I would trust Wills research any day over yours. You claim to be using DMOZ results to improve on the directory - prove it. You claim to have backlinks scripts that gain you thousands of links, yet all you have shown is spammy, crappy auto submission software... Stop giving bad advice to people, because all you are doing is giving THIS forum (and other SEO's) a bad name.
Ajeet - RE your first post... Yes, some people do use this method to build up link popularity. It takes a long time to build up networks of sites, but as OWG mentioned, once you have enough of them, as long as they are on-topic and ueful to the visitor, the results can be great.