Are religious people stupid?

Faith = gullible. Nuff said.

 

Faith = Strength . Enough said .

 

Faith brings Knowledge.

 

I think it's always going to be a touchy subject. I think it's hard for people to believe in religion whole heartedly though with all the advances in science. I think there is a difference between faith/belief and knowledge/intelligence though. I don't think it's fair to say whether one group of people is more intelligent than the other though.

 

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind"
- Albert Einstein

 

Sorry, what is the logic behind this statement? You wanted to answer with something but you did not know with what? I know logic is a weak spot of religious people, but it'd be nice if you tried to elaborate on that anyway.
I for one can tell you exactly why all religious people are gullible ( and they can considere themselves smart if they want to, as far as a gullible man can go)

 

No they are not. After all, not all the religious cannot be referred to as gullible just because they believe in something they have not seen. Scientists have ventured through many pursuits day and night, because they think that they can see beyond what is believed by some. Galileo has been called crazy because of his theories that have been proven correct later. Many scientists have experienced ridicule because people during their time cannot grasp the vision that these gifted people see. It could be the same with religious people. They have perceived ideas and ideologies that cannot be comprehended by other people.

When you see it on both planes, Scientists and Faithful people are standing on the same ground. Einstein may not comb his hair but he ain't stupid... Besides man's knowledge may be too limited to understand the unseen.

 

Excuse me did you just said logic ? Look your post at the start of the page . Where is the logic in that ? Or do you consider that anything you hate is illogical ?

If you expect a well articulated and academic reply to your 4-worded post then you are the gullible one .

 

Oh really. So which is it --"No they are not " or "Not all of them" ?

So giving money , obeying like slaves and damaging their own bodies just because some people told them to is not "gullible" . Ok

I can tell you that the only way for salvation and eternal joy in heaven is through my penis, and my penis only. That and 10% of your income. Needless to say you have to do what I say also, otherwise it's just an eternal boiling pot with you in it. And 1000s of other tortures to keep you entertained for eternity.
This has as much proof and credibility as any other religious text.

Religion has NOTHING, let me repeat it for you if you didnt get it the first time, N-O-T-H-I-N-G in common with science.

Yes, I just posted one of those above.

 

Which one? "Faith=gullible. Nuff said" ? that one?
Are you saying that giving money to some people because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that altering your behavior because other people or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that obeying orders of some people because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that damaging your own body because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that killing yourself because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that killing or damaging bodies of your own children because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that killing or damaging bodies of other animals ( human or non-human) because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that altering your diet because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?
Are you saying that believing an obviously , ridiculously false stories because they or some other people before them said you had to (God said so! I heard that somebody heard that a few thousands of years ago) does not make you gullible?

I could go on forever here, but I am here for my personal entertainment and that is about as much as I wanted to write.


So, about this " Faith is strength. Enough said" of yours. I am gullible for expecting some logic behind that? You should look up what " gullible " is in the first place before you even use this word.
Anyway, as I said I am here for entertainment and you do provide it to me both by " an academic posts" ( rotflmao) or by failing to show any logic behind that silly statement of yours.

 

Are you saying that it's wrong to give money to charity ?

Are you saying that it's wrong to have a high code of ethics ?

You are obeying some of the same rules they've just been rewritten .

What are you talking about ? Buddy i'm a Christian - only morons damage their own body .

I also know a few atheist that cut themselves regularly or take high amount of synthesized drugs . Do you think God told them so ?

LOL now you've stuck gold - so if you're a mass of shredded meat you are gullible . Man I'm telling you , I've never met a dead person that gullible .

What modern religion is doing that ? The murder murder of children is something only a complete psycho would do . There is no religious requirement to kill children .

You eat dead animals as well dude . Are you gullible ?

Don't bring God into this one there is not a shred of evidence in the Bible that says you should feast on Wednesday and Friday . On the other side diets are more and more popular .

A large part of history isn't backed by any other evidence except the writings or others . Should we start discarding that as well .

You've been a wonderful entertainer darling please continue to amuse me .

 

This isn't atheism. This is bigotry.

A true Atheist insists on freedom of belief. Freedom to believe in a God, or not. But an atheist that attacks people for believing in a God is not a atheist because they betray their belief - he/she is using atheism as a shield for their bigotry.

BTW, yes, Faith=Strength. It takes inner strength and FOCUS to have faith. I have faith in my friends - it seems that "thesickearth" thinks that faith makes me gullible? How lonely he must be. I feel sorry for him

BTW, believing in God and being religious is NOT the same thing. I believe in God but I am not religious.

 

I've known about this study (at least the graph) about several years ago, and it's obvious that lower IQs = more religiosity.
One notable exception is the US with about 100 average IQ and 66% religiosity. It's the only exception, otherwise nations with average IQ around 100 and more are not that religious at all (less than 50%)
All the dumb countries (poor, dumb) are very religious..

How sad to be an attheist in a country full of dumb religious people who would happily kill you if you express anything against their imaginary friend.

 

I don't think it's "obvious". I think it's "obvious" that you like using the word "obvious".

James,
1. Can you cite me the original study (and validation) you seem to be desperately clinging to?
2. Can you also explain to me what you think is the difference is between an atheist and a bigot?

If your atheism makes you smarter, you should be very eager to answer these two questions to me, right?

 

What in the world is a "true Atheist" ?

Sorry, what? Betray their belief? There is no belief in atheism. That's why its called atheism. Besides, when did I say that I am an atheist? Also I am not attacking anybody. I just like having fun with godbots.

My bigotry ( whatever you mean by that ) does not need any shield.

I thought we were talking about religions. What friends or anything else got to do with anything? However if I got a friend that would come over and say, "Thesickearth, you got to give me 10% of your income from now on, also don't eat tasty foods when I 'll tell you not to, and bring me in cash whatever monies you have saved by doing so and in general do as I say; And trust me, it's for your own good." Yeah, it would take a lot of inner strength and FOCUS not to lol him.

Ok, ( I assume you don't belong to any sect).
What is your belief in "God" is based on? What do you think your "God" wants from you, and why? What or who is "God", and what makes u think so?
What makes you think that there is 1 god and not 396 or ten million? Who made him ( them)? Are there semi-Gods, and if not, why?

 

What do you want Corwin? Are you a believer wanting to argue with me about that? I'm sorry but I have no time or will to convince you of anything.
The study I'm talking about and the resulting graph I've found it at least since 2007 or 2008 I remember it because I reported about it on my french blog (now defunct)

Now, you ask me what I think is the difference between an atheist and a bigot, to be honest I'm not an english native speaker and I don't remember what a bigot means and I don't wish to look it up in order to answer you.
If you believe that IQ is not related to religiousity, then FINE, I really don't care what you think about that and I don't want to argue with you about that.

So, keep your belief, it's fine with me.

PS: I'm not saying I'm smarter than any believer, so don't pretend I've said that. I'm talking about the study and average IQ correlated to average religiousity by country, and I specifically said that the US is a strange thing, an odd thing in this study, because it is an exception. So in the US people are smart and religious. OK. But that's the only instance in the world! All other countries results give proof that religiousity is correlated with low IQs. Now if you feel offended or otherwise, don't be! I think there's something special about the US in its short history and the social connection linked to religion that makes it an exception. But one day or another, the results will change and the US will become less religious, don't worry about that.

 

To "thesickearth" and "JamesColin" - if you can't defend your position on atheism, then don't understand your own arguments.

Especially "thesickearth" with your weasel arguments - you make yourself look soooooo pathetically weak. If you can't stand up for your own words, then your words are worthless.

And please don't stereotype me. I believe in a God, but I am NOT religious. If you don't understand that then you don't understand your own position.

James, again, please don't stereotype me. You absolutely cannot offend me because you don't know me, so don't flatter yourself. But if you don't understand the difference between atheism and bigotry, then you might be a bigot, right? Believe me, I've experienced the ugliness of bigotry in my life, and I can recognize it, and I see it here with you two.

 

I don't know what a bigot is, sorry that I can't continue the argument with you.

I don't mind that you believe in a God and are not religious, I don't mind anybody believing in anything seriously. Everyone is entitled to his opinion.

 

I agree religious people are stupid why not just hand me a percent of your income lol I mean all religion is a business plain and simple when you dont pay you dont get special services well, to me that sounds like business 101 lol

 

what in the world are you talking about?

here we go again( i wonder how many times will it take to get an answer).

What is your belief in "God" is based on? What do you think your "God" wants from you, and why? What or who is "God", and what makes u think so?
What makes you think that there is 1 god and not 396 or ten million? Who made him ( them)? Are there semi-Gods, and if not, why?