Are MFA sites worth making?

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  1. david9wong

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    #21
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  2. SEO-Expert

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    #22
    LOL, not sure about the top 2 in such a big group, <modesty mode turned off> but I do have a IQ of almost 150 and a BIG head to prove it! So should be in the top 2%, <modesty mode turned on> (that is if you believe the research behind IQ testing). If only having a high IQ converted to direct revenue (still have to work hard) then I'd be laughing :D

    Been seeing a lot of posts in this section with posters assuming MFA is the same as scraper site (or other low quality content) with AdSense added. Yes, a hell of a lot of MFA sites fall into this category (they are soooo easy to make with copied content), but to talk like all MFA sites are low quality reminds me of how some ill informed people believe because there tends to be a lot of crimes committed in paticular inner cities by a particular minority that all members of that minority are criminals!!

    David Law
     
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  3. Astroman

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    #23
    You can certainly make money by making sites to put Adsense ads on them, but not very much if the site is very small - and practically none at all if the site is all copied content.
     
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    #24
    That isn't true. I have seen MFA sites with 'copied content' making +40$ a day from adsense.
     
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  5. Reviewz

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    #25
    You can't make money from MFAs. MFAs have low CTR, and low traffic and low quality content, often copied from somewhere else.

    Low CTR and low traffic = Low earnings.

    Make too many MFAs, and it might not even be safe for your account. Google has got all these checks going around.

    Conclusion: Don't make MFAs unless you like risk.
     
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    #26
    have you actually own one?
     
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    #27
    Hi,
    I think MFA sites are useless.

    Build a website with the content you wish and you will be happy =)
     
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    #28
    Being an MFA site has nothing to do with originality of content.

    an MFA can have original content.

    a quality site may not have original content.

    MFA is a site whose primary focus is to get clicks.

    A quality site may be commercial in nature, but it focuses on providing quality experience to the user.

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    If you ask me is it profitable to make money from MFAs?

    I will say yes if you have the right marketing and SEO skills to bring traffic..;).
     
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    #29
    If you are asking about a site with:

    - 3 pages
    - 20 words per page stuffed with keywords
    - 3 adsense ads
    - 2 adsense link units

    the answer is NO. it's not worth.
     
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  10. Reviewz

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    #30
    Cut the sarcastic crap out.

    For sites I have not put effort into, they can have the best placements and still will never get clicks.

    MFAs have a very similar result, so I can conclude from there. All those "Ready Adsense templates" will never work.

    Only thing that will work, is real effort. And all sites with Adsense on them, can they not be called MFAs?

    Like one guy said, even MFAs can have original content...but end of the day, it boils down to how much effort expanded.
     
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    #31
    so youre saying because you put more effort you should be rewarded more?

    its like something I copied oops read, just because youre a vegetarian doesn't mean that an angry bull won't charge you...
     
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  12. Reviewz

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    #32
    I don't say by putting effort you WILL for sure be rewarded. But ALL the sites making money from Adsense had a lot of effort put into them. And the webmasters make the money from the ONE site.

    Putting in effort gives you more chances.

    Is that clearer?
     
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    #33
    I've seen MFA sites make good money and I've seen site with original content make zero
     
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    #34

    I agree you've got a site with original content there, but that is not what an MFA site is. What you've got is a site with some original content on it that you are monetizing with Adsense. Just because you made it to put Adsense ads on it doesn't make it an MFA site; that is not what the term MFA actually means.

    MFA sites are, by definition, scraper *BS* sites.

    Please read the definition of an MFA site:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scraper_site

    To quote Wiki,
    "Made for AdSense sites are considered sites that are spamming search engines and diluting the search results by providing surfers with less-than-satisfactory search results. The scraped content is considered redundant to that which would be shown by the search engine under normal circumstances had no MFA website been found in the listings."
     
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  15. SEO-Expert

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    #35
    Exactly, you can make money from almost any site, even a poorly thought out MFA site IF you know how to drive traffic to it.

    With my SEO skills I have no problem gaining easy organic SERPs in Google with unique content (copied content doesn't work so well now). For this reason I aim for unique quality content on my MFA sites.

    The thing with MFA sites, in fact any site that your not going to market your own services/products the profits from even a good job tends to be relatively low (your getting a small share of the profits).

    You can gain 1,000 targeted organic visitors and with some traffic only make $2 from AdSense which sucks, (I have a site like that with about 2,000 visitors a day!!) with the same traffic selling a service/product you might make a few hundred dollars (depends on what your doing).

    I could very easily create say 100 MFA sites using WordPress and a script I've got that copies RSS feeds. I can use this script to make relatively unique content from Google and Yahoo news (any news site). I've tested this script and have a site with over 20,000 pages and it doesn't do well at all in the SERPs at all since it's copied content (Google's really good at spotting copied content).

    From an AdSense perspective could delete it tomorrow and not miss it, though found another use for it and makes about $40 a month so pays for itself.

    Still even though they'd not do particularly well, they do get significantly indexed in Google and do pull in a trickle of traffic which converts well in AdSense.

    If I did make 100 of these (probably take a fortnight of work including installing WordPress, setting up sites on a server from scratch etc...) I'd estimate in 6 months they'd be making between them $10-$30 a day (this would take adding a link or two to each one). This is all 100 sites together, so 10 cents to 30 cents a day each.

    Not a great deal of money for so many sites, but there's very little maintenance involved in a site like this, set it up and forget about it. In fact if I was doing this I'd let each site run to about 1,000 pages then turn the script off and forget about it.

    With this in mind I can understand why some people do this, one off amount of work and a small amount of residual income long term making them worthwhile. Doing this small scale though (couple of sites) is a waste of time.

    Not for me though, just saying I understand why some do this. Much rather spend that time to build a couple of good sites with a dozen+ pages each in the same time frame and add all the links to them. These make more money from AdSense than poorly made MFA sites do and if it becomes successful be used for other things to make much more money than from AdSense. You need at least a small amount of ability to write a good site though.

    David Law
     
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    #36
    I think the confusion here lies with the definition of the term MFA. A lot of experienced SEOs don't realize that MFA is synonymous with Scraper site.

    It does NOT mean a website which has been created to get clicks from Adsense. Everyone who creates a website and puts Adsense on it wants to get clicks; that is the point of Adsense.

    But the question is, can you make money from them? Yes, a few cents a day, maybe, but the point is NOT to engage in such BS spam marketing tactics.

    What these guys are describing are honest, genuine websites with original content. They are mistakenly calling them MFA sites, but they do have the right idea. These are basically marketing sites - they market towards the Adsense click. It's a lot different from MFA, and it makes more money. Follow such a path -- original, unique, content, get backlinks, and add your Adsense code (or better yet, some affiliate marketing code) ...

    BUT STOP CALLING REAL WEBSITES MFA!!! LOL
     
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  17. glenndorsey

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    #37
    MFA = A site purely designed to generate revenue with adsense.

    Wiki does not define MFA, or any other term... thank God!!

    A scraper site can be MFA or not. Many scraper sites are monetized with affiliate links. Thus, they are not MFA.
     
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    #38
    1) MFA is a site purely designed to generate revenue with adsense; but Wiki clearly defines it as a scraper site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scraper_site

    2) Again, please read the Wiki link.

    3) To rebut your logic:
    All MFA sites are scraper sites.
    Some scraper sites are MFA.
    ... You do the rest.
     
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    #39
    Another quote from the Wiki definition of MFA:

    Some scraper sites are created for monetizing the site using advertising programs such as Google AdSense.[1] In such case, they are called Made for AdSense sites or MFA. This is also a derogatory term used to refer to websites that have no redeeming value except to get web visitors to the website for the sole purpose of clicking on advertisements.
     
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  20. glenndorsey

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    #40
    I will assure you that wiki does not define any term. Wiki is nothing more than a bunch of people throwing their opinions onto the net and hoping that others will consider them to be the authority on all issues. They're not.

    A MFA site is nothing more than a site "made for adsense". That can be good, or bad, depending on your view. But to claim that all scraper sites are MFA, or that all MFA sites are scrapers, is just wrong.

    I can spot a MFA (not that this is a bad thing, as it usually isn't in my opinion) in 3 seconds. Everything about the site (from content to design) is created with nothing more than generating income from adsense in mind.

    :)
     
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