Are atheist liberals a dying breed?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nerz, Sep 25, 2006.

  1. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #81
    Yes, I have noticed if someone says they believe in God, Christ or Jesus, someone comes out swinging, name calling, saying how foolish to believe, and how much of a bigot and racist you are.

    If you say there is no God, I have yet to see someone come out bashing for that belief. Go back to the start of this thread and reread the posts if you don't believe me.

    It seems that the word "bigot" is only allowed to be used towards a Christian, yet the one saying it, is the one showing bigotry for not tolerating another's belief.
     
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  2. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #82
    I know. There isn't a single thread on this forum from a non-believer demanding proof of faith from believers. Then launch into tirades calling them idiots (at some point) for believeing in it. Never happens at all ;)
     
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  3. Rick_Michael

    Rick_Michael Peon

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    #83
    More rhetorical question...lmao.

    No, athiest wouldn't come to someones door and persuade them, but some would go to court and attempt to infringe upon others.

    Meaningless rhetoric.^^^

    SOME athiests killed millions of their own....Communists. Their god may have not been in heaven, but they sure did have an external authority ie idealogy. Your rhetoric is useless...

    Not all Christian, Jews, Athiests, Muslims, etc,...are the same, so therefore you can't raise one above the other. There are just as many asshole athiests as there are of Christians. Believe me, I know many many asshole athiests.
     
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  4. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #84
    infringe upon others what? They're desire to force everyone else to see god and jesus everywhere and on everything? :rolleyes:

    But they aren't trying to force their beliefs into everyone else and they aren't starting wars about it :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Rick_Michael

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    #85
    Simply allow another child to pray at school. I could defintiely understand that the teacher shouldn't lead such, but not allowing a child to pray at school--at all, is rather infringing in my view.

    Rhetorical question^^^^ Continue this pattern, as it's funny.

    Not all Christians are doing such either. But as you ignored so painfully, there were athiests that start wars in their own country e.g Communists. Then when they were in control they abolished Christianity in their country. So you'd be wrong.

    No all athiest are that way, but that definitely existed.
     
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  6. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #86
    I have not said thats foolish to believe just that seems rediculous to me to believe and yes I do think the pope and the catholic church are BS.

    What names have I callled you? I did say the Jews and Christians who want holy wars are idiots, and well they are. People who want holy wars are dangerous assholes no matter what religion.

    Why do you feel so threated? Why are so insecure in your beliefs? I say why I don't beleive and you guys act like I am attacking you personally.

    People like me don't want laws based on people religions, ok? If people didn't try to make laws based on religion I wouldn't care in the least, but since they do, I feel I should point out how crazy religion is.

    Do you know there are people who think we needed to invade Iraq to start the apocylpse? People who think BS like that need to be addressed.

    So when god talks to the infailable pope do you think he calls on something like the batphone?
     
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  7. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #87
    Do I sound threatened? I was just pointing out the opposite of what was stated.

    Laws: give examples of those laws. I know you want the law on marriage CHANGED since you don't like the way it is now. Some are trying to make sure all the specifics are written so there isn't a question on that law. But why get married since the savings of marriage are far outweighed by the cost of divorce anyways.
     
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  8. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #88
    School isn't a proper place to be praying and kids shouldn't be forced to be around it. Do you think everyone should be able to pray any time they want? What a productive work force we'd have :D
     
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  9. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #89
    Feelings...nothing more than feelings. Trying to forget my...feelings of religious hatred.

    Here's a tip ferret: Move!

     
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  10. Rick_Michael

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    #90
    What you say is proper or improper is a matter of your own opinion. If a child is at lunch, I believe they have every right to pray at that point in time.

    At work, federal laws allows for reasonable practice of faith (but it has to be on the worker's time) ie if your muslim you can pray but it has to be taken of of your breaks or lunches. Same with christians, but christians don't pray as much as muslims, generally. This is general human resource info....
     
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  11. Grafstein

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    #91
    Nope,you white australians robbed the natives of there land but you dont move out because its now your country.
    Jews have similar perspective.
     
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  12. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #92
    See you have pretty much totally proved my point, this is Christian nation right Gtech? Don't believe get out!

    whats stopping them, I bet kids are praying in every school .... right before exams
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #93
    Your point wasn't that this is a Christian nation. Your point was that you personally don't like Christian based laws, such as "thou shalt not kill." My point wasn't "if you don't believe, get out" my point was "if you don't like it, move." That point is based upon the fact that every state level Constitution is written with a tribute to our Creator and that you, are in the minority.

    After all, why would you want to live in a country where killing is prohibited? ;)
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #94
    Oh, the outrage! They might pray ferret to death!

    I love it! Over the past year and a half, I've learned that if it pisses you off personally, it probably makes me happy :)
     
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  15. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #95
    not killing and not stealing are pretty much universal values, not be able to buy beer on sunday is different, don't you think?

    I couldn't really care less what kids do in schools
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #96
    Here's a thought...if you know you have a drinking problem and can't live without beer on Sunday, buy some extra on Saturday! But no, that's too much effort to buy an extra six pack, case, keg, whatever on Saturday while standing in line to buy beer :rolleyes:

    Or move somewhere where you can buy beer on Sundays. I can buy beer where I live on Sundays, though I don't recall ever having done so.

    Then stop whining and moaning about what they do.
     
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  17. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #97
    Is this what's its all about? People don't like religion cuz they can't buy beer on a sunday? Well; as long as its a deep, philosophical and principled objection ;)
     
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  18. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #98
    I just pulled that one because, it one of the most arbitary

    I don't want my tax money spent on faith based intiitives, I don't want abstience only sex education taught with my tax dollars, I want abortion and birth control safe, legal and availible.

    I don't think if we give aid to africa they should have to take "loyalty oaths" to get aid.

    I think companies that work with stem cells should not be cut off from federal funding because of it.

    Pretty much I don't think any policy decesion should be made because of arbitary religious beliefs.

    What if I want to buy beer on sundays?, why should I be denied that?
     
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  19. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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  20. lorien1973

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    #100
    I thought you were against corporate welfare, ferret?

    No one says loyalty oaths; but I think that if a country gets aid from this country; they certainly don't think they should work against us. Which happens in far too many cases.
     
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