Apple Releases Intel iMac.

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That was fast! Only three months since the last upgrade!!

http://www.apple.com/imac/

Twice as fast, for the same price!! To those that just bought an iMac, I fill your pain!!!

As for me, I'll be waiting for a future verison. Being the first Intel version, I'm guessing there will be bugs in them!

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As for me, I'll be waiting for a future verison. Being the first Intel version, I'm guessing there will be bugs in them!
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I think you're confusing Intel with Microsoft

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Yeah, I would stay away from first revision products.

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I've seen OS X run on a P4 intel box before, it looked quite a bit faster than on the powerbooks we have around here. I guess that is good news for Mac users, however I think I'll just pay half price for a generic laptop with the same specs and continue running linux

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I've seen OS X run on a P4 intel box before,
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Yeah, but now it's dual core... Those MacBooks look so pretty...

I want one.

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Twice as fast, for the same price!! To those that just bought an iMac, I fill your pain!!!
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Pain? I love mine! Who needs Intel...

Actually, doh, I have a Powerbook...

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Those MacBooks look so pretty...
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And I guess that is what will sell them - that and aggressive mac fanatics

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Pain? I love mine! Who needs Intel...

Actually, doh, I have a Powerbook...
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Here's what I call pain.....

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=172033

amateurmacfreak said:

Yeah. F*** yeah. :-( Agh. Why'd I buy one for xmas???
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amateurmacfreak said:

Whoa. Ok. Angry now again. *breaks down into sobs* *tears run into my iMac G5's keyboard*:-( :-( :-( :-( But, but, but... I WANTA STILL BE COOL!!!:-( :e-ek:
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Robert Scheide said:

I've been a Mac user for twenty years. I purchased a G5 iMac 10 days ago, thinking that the iMac wouldn't be updated until June of 2006, as most sources had predicted. Now, today, I go to the Apple website and I'm told that the new Intel iMac is "twice as fast and twice as amazing" and yet priced exactly the same as the PPC-based machine I purchased 10 days ago. Usually, there's a price reduction in such cases, but so far, my calls to Apple and to my Apple reseller (MacConnection) seeking a rebate have been rebuffed. I'm feeling burned, but should I? Some posts have questioned whether Apple's speed claims for the new Intel machines really matter that much. If the higher speed does make a signifcant difference, does anyone know if I have any recourse for seeking a rebate/discount on a brand new machine that the manufacturer now claims is obsolete. Am I just an idiot? Am I the only person feeling this way?
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Qoxiivi said:

I feel pretty pissed off I have to admit - having only just bought my iMac under a month ago. I was led to believe (by a guy working in the Apple store in London) that the Intel Macs wouldn't be launched for a while yet. Had I known they were coming out in January, I'd have waited.

I'm actually quite f**king cross.
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Apple Hobo said:

I have just joined the official [expletive deleted]-I-just-bought-a-PPC-iMac-12-days-ago! club. I still like my 12-day-old 20" G5. I knew MWSF was coming; I rolled the dice and took a chance.
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clcnyc said:

I just bought my "brand new" fabulous iMac G5 20" in November, loaded it up with lots o'RAM, and thought I had it made. Now this. Anyone want a barely used iMac?:roll-eyes:
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chicagdan said:

There's no problem from my end, I like my computer. But it's almost unheard of for someone to introduce a product to great fanfare and heavy advertising, then turn around in less than three months and say: that computer you bought? It's crap. This one's three times faster.

I just bought a Prius last month. What if Toyota announced today that they're selling the 2006 Prius plug-in hybrid that now gets 200 mpg and it's available today for the same price? Every 2006 Prius owner would go nuts and would probably organize a class action lawsuit. We all expect technology to render our purchases out of date, but what Jobs did today was obnoxious.

And I should add that by Jobs' own words, I'd be a fool not to pack up the computer and return it tomorrow. By Apple policy, I'm entitled to a full refund minus a 10 percent restocking fee. So for $200 (including sales tax -- Chicago tax is insane), I can walk out with this three times faster computer. If every iMac buyer over the past two weeks did that, wouldn't Apple have a big problem on its hands?

(EDIT: Of course, I don't believe's Jobs' claim and like the fact that the computer I have now runs every piece of software in the Mac universe including Virtual PC, which I trust much more than dual boot, and Mac Classic software. So I won't be returning anything. But as a professional speechwriter, I think words matter and Jobs' gave an unnecessary slap in the face to a lot of his users today. I don't appreciate it.)
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Robert Scheide said:

Man, I hate to be a whiner. That's why I'm seriously considering the ship it back option for the now maybe obsolete iMac G5 I bought 10 days ago. In fact, I've already got the return number to send it back. I have 20 days to make up my mind. I'd only be taking about a $200 loss. Now, what I'd like to hear is some pro and con from those of you who really know this ****. Is the Intel iMac worth switching for (considering the loss I'll take)? Might it be wiser to wait for the next model down the line? Could the new platform have stability issues? Is there really that much of a difference? Are we just being speed queens? Revolution now? Or tempest in a teapot? Your thoughts, please, except quit reminding me how stupid I was for buying something so close to the expo.
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Then theres a few lucky ones...

ascender said:

Bit of a stroke of luck then that i rejected my new 20" G5 iMac because of a faulty wireless card....
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BakedBeans said:

And a stroke of luck that i got a refund for a faulty fan 3 hours before the new iMac was released

W00T
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Little tip for future mac upgraders....

Burai said:

No offense to the people who've just found their new G5 iMacs and 15" PowerBooks have suddenly lost a whole layer of sparkle but how can anyone be silly enough to buy ANY Apple hardware and software this close to a Keynote?

It's not like this was a quiet Tuesday announcement that's caught people by surprise. MacWorld San Fran and WWDC are THE events for big announcments. Anyone with a Mac who follows the news and rumour sites knows this.

The golden rule when buying a new Mac: Never, ever, ever, ever buy a new computer in the few months running up to a Stevenote unless someone has a gun to your head. Don't assume, don't trust logic, don't second-guess, don't trust MacRumors buyers guide, don't trust Apple Store employees (they aren't insiders, they are cashiers) and for the love of all that's holy, don't trust ThinkSecret.

And that goes for iPods and software too!
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Here's what I call pain.....
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I didn't pay for mine so I still feel joy

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I think I might get one in a few months, they look promosing

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There had to be a catch...

http://www.unsanity.org/archives/000445.php

unsanity said:

Power: The new portable ICBMs (Intel-chip based Macs, also iCBM) require more power than their previous iterations. they have a 60-watt-hour battery compared to the old PowerBook's 50-watt-hour battery. They also have 85 watt AC adapters compared to the old 65 watt AC adapters. Imaginary Watt per Performance Arbitrary Unit my butt.

Parts Missing: The S-Video output, the Modem, and the FW800 have been removed. The modem was extremely useful for those that traveled a lot and needed dialup access to get internet access. Not every hotel/rest area has an ethernet jack/wireless and not everyone can use dialup networking on their cell phone via Bluetooth. The S-Video was very, very useful for presentations on projection screens. Especially when so many of today's presentations are being done via PowerPoint slides. Argh. The FW800 (FireWire 800) was very useful for those that had FW800 devices and needed speed. Even more so for those that needed multiple FW400 ports because their devices weren't daisy chain-able (like the iPod). However, I imagine this could have been removed if having two bus powered devices on two different ports was too much of a power drain for the ICBM. Remove a feature to add longer battery life. Some people suggest these can be added back using the ExpressCard port. However, that's spending a more money for one feature as there is but one slot.

Visually Unimpressive: Here's an odd one. The old PowerBook has a 15.1 inch screen with a 1440x960 resolution. The new MacBook Pro has a resolution of 1440x900. Notice the smaller number? Yes, the new MacBook Pro has 86,400 fewer pixels than the old one. And because these pixels are in a greater area, it means the DPI is lower on the MacBook Pro as well.

Burning Issues: I didn't notice this until at least 3 people pointed it out to me, but the new MacBook Pro lacks Dual Layer DVD burning. I'm not even sure how that happens. Previously, Macs would come with DVDÂ±RW burning or DVD+R DL burning without Apple even advertising it; machines would just have it included before it was a standard feature. Now they've actually removed Dual Layer burning. OMGWTF?

Arbitrary Additions: New to the MacBook Pro is a built in iSight and an IR port for the Front Row remote. I can barely understand the iSight for professional users. It might be useful for meetings on the road (or in a plane) and imagining Phil Schiller in a thong. But otherwise, it seems somewhat unnecessary. The Front Row remote I don't get at all. The MacBook Pro is a portable machine, having a remote with a portable machine just seems redundant in some way. And easily lost.

Performance: Apple says the new MacBook Pro is 4x-5x faster than the old PowerBook. I have to question this a lot. They didn't seem to mention the SPEC test was designed specifically for dual cores/processors and that the Intel compiler has been accused of cheating when it comes to compiling synthetic benchmarks in the past. But that's from memory and I can't find any concrete links on it at this time. Granted, Motorola dropped the ball and never really increased the bus speed for the G4, so even if it could process data fast, it was starved. The faster bus speed allows everything to proceed faster. However, the loss of AltiVec is a HUGE problem which Apple didn't show in their test. I watched a display MacBook Pro here at MWSF play a H.264 trailer for Fun With Dick & Jane and it was very, very noticeably skipping frames. My current 1.5Ghz PowerBook (with AltiVec, of course) plays the same trailer with no skipping.
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Love my S-Video, large DPI etc.

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There had to be a catch...
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That is SUCH bullshit.

18,000 pixels is nothing.

The best looking plasma on the market only has a resolution of 1024x800, while all of it's competitors have 1280x800 (Or something like that anyway.)

Basically, the new MacBook rocks.

I want one.

It'll be on order by the end of the week

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the local mac-taliban member at my office already ordered one, says he should get it in five weeks. the price here in denmark is close to $3700, i dont care how nice it looks or how much faster than the old mac, no way i would pay that.

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...As for me, I'll be waiting for a future verison. Being the first Intel version, I'm guessing there will be bugs in them!
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Naw. My son works for Intel. It will come out of the box perfect!

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