Apparently paying for coffee in cash is now terroristic

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by sunfyre7896, Feb 8, 2012.

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    Paying for coffee with cash as Starbucks, using Google maps to look for stadiums or other public places, or installing programs to protect your internet identity and security are now considered terrorist threats by the FBI's new "Communities Against Terrorism" program. Business owners are told to report people that do these things more than a couple of times. Cash is easier to use by people not wanting to be tracked, but also by people that don't want to use plastic either. Thank Bush and the Patriot Act that paved the way for Obama's new NDAA. Looks like the terrorists are winning after all....

    FBI Watching Starbucks for Cash Users
     
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    Mikaël2 Member

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    Blame Israel.
     
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    sunfyre7896 Peon

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    How about I blame bad American policies to deal with terrorism and also Islamic extremists that propagate terrorist activities. The Israelis are not attacking the U.S., nor are they responsible for Sectarian extremists committing heinous acts such as blowing up innocent people walking around minding their own business because they hate their culture.
     
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  4. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    Dealing with terrorism is what Bin Laden wanted, he pre-planned all of this, you fell into his trap. Osama bin Laden said that al Qaida plans to continue the policy of "bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. The more you fight terror the more you please Bin Laden. The more you are closer to bankruptcy. Better to give the terrorists their demands?

    The reason why those terrorists are attacking you is because you finance Israel. Without Israel there would be no 9/11, there would be no war in Afghanistan which has costed nearly $500 billion, no patriot act. So I'd blame Israel. Unless you want to ignore the real root of the problem.

    :cool:

    PS: I don't support terror/terrorists.
     
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    sunfyre7896 Peon

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    Extremists sects hate western culture as a whole. It's in the Quran that they should fight infidels (Any non-Muslim). They take this to heart. They also hate the fact that the U.S. is sort of leading this culture and is allied with Israel, whom they also hate. Quit trying to rationalize and justify terrorist activities against the U.S. and the west as if it's only because of Israel. Just another way to spread the seed of discord against Jews on your part. I'm not buying.
     
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    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    With regard to the above issue...isn't Mikael the troll that specifically published that he wants one of the members of the Saudi Arabian family to ultimately rule the Palestinians. And therein lies a troll.

    As far as the topic itself...I find it hard to believe that paying for a Starbucks with cash is going to instigate investigations. That has to be a ridiculous claim. Cash for small dollar items should be the norm...not the exception.

    Unfortunately the world has to deal with terrorists and the trolls that support them. Nations establish rules to protect their citizenry. The Israeli's have developed incredibly successful methods to eliminate to date airline terrorism. These processes are additionally a pain in the ass to deal with...but they work. The US is using different methods. Its revising methods.

    Unfortunately as long as there are terrorists and lying propoganda trolls...the world will have to adjust....but I can't see the US monitoring cash payments for Starbucks. We'll see what occurs over time.
     
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    Lol? Thank god I don't drink coffee Lol.
     
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    So what you are telling me is that Bin Laden attacked you because he disliked your culture? Many countries have the same culture as yours and he didn't target them.

    What did he say was his motive to orchestrate 9/11?:

    "We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel." Bin Laden

    So I'm sorry but your wrong. I'm getting the feeling that you are one of those people that have a hard time accepting truth, you are already accusing me of rationalizing terror.

    Few people understand that this war on terror will bankrupt America, Bin Laden and his people are not dumb, they are very sophisticated and know what they are doing. They bankrupted the soviet union in 1980's, they are doing the same to the USA. I tried to warn you, but I'm getting the impression that you will not listen.

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    LoL. They are dead. The manner of their premature death makes them dumb in a historical sense, and the fact they are in hell makes them dumb in a current sense. Apparently, their particular brand of stupidity is quite common in Saudi Arabia. Maybe it's something in the water. :D
     
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    I wish they were.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    OK fine. You are still alive, but I'm guessing you flunked the IQ test, so its hard to truly lump you with them when you couldn't pass the Al Queda entrance exam.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Looking on each flyer, at the bottom it says, "Each indicator listed above, is by itself, lawful conduct or behavior and may also constitute the exercise of rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. In addition, there may be a wholly innocent explanation for conduct or behavior that appears suspicious in nature. For this reason, no single indicator should be the sole basis for law enforcement action. The totality of behavioral indicators and other relevant circumstances should be evaluated when considering any law enforcement response or action."

    In other words, I don't think they want Starbucks to call them every time someone pays with cash. :)

    Maybe they're just trying to make people aware, listing a few of the signs they've noted with terrorist activity?
     
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    Am I really wrong? So no terrorists have bombed a single country in Europe in the name of Allah? Not once? There have been no bombings in England or Spain amongst other places?

    Terrorists attack places because of their allies, like you said, but they also attack places due to their culture; namely support of western culture and also that happen to be Christian nations.

    And I have a feeling that you are one of those people that can't let go of his opinions due to the extreme hate you have of Israel and also not agreeing with the U.S. because we want to ally with them. As I've stated before, my motivations and opinions are not motivated by hate of any country or people as a whole, save for terrorists. My issue lies with them, although I don't like it when nations are so opposed towards Israel either. However, your opinions are based upon hatred.

    And what I was referring to about rationalizing terror wasn't that you rationalize it directly as if you are in support, but you did have an issue with nations 'on the other side of the world' as you were stating, having an issue with terrorists in the Middle East and surrounding regions and wanting to depose of them. If terrorists are hell bent on causing destruction and killing civilians through non-warfare means such as suicide bombings and other types of dirty bombings, then how is it wrong for democratic countries to want to end that threat? In a way, that is rationalizing their existence.
     
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    Good luck with ending terrorism - it's been around for centuries. These days its threat is widely overstated. I like this comment.

    "On the first page of its founding manifesto, the massively funded Department of Homeland Security intones, "Today's terrorists can strike at any place, at any time, and with virtually any weapon."

    But if it is so easy to pull off an attack and if terrorists are so demonically competent, why have they not done it? Why have they not been sniping at people in shopping centers, collapsing tunnels, poisoning the food supply, cutting electrical lines, derailing trains, blowing up oil pipelines, causing massive traffic jams, or exploiting the countless other vulnerabilities that, according to security experts, could so easily be exploited?

    One reasonable explanation is that almost no terrorists exist in the United States and few have the means or the inclination to strike from abroad. But this explanation is rarely offered."

    But be careful with what you say or tweet because Homeland Security is watching everyone.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16810312
     
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    I was talking about Bin laden and why he did 9/11 and you talk to me about Spain and England and western culture. LOL. Changing the subject as usual. Believe what you want. Enjoy bankruptcy.
     
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    Gotta love terrorist fanboys that live in the safety of western freedom but try to sound ominous as they chatter about the evil USA... in a US based forum on their Dell computer.

    Aside from enjoying the fruits of the west while criticizing it, the wannabes have only 2 traits in common with OBL:
    • The desire for people to don a vest full of nails and C4... long as it's ANYONE but them
    • The fact that both are brain-dead
     
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    Oh Mikael, Mikael..... This coming from the one who never answers my questions but with other questions or outright changes of subject.

    If you'd notice. My response was to your question of disbelief on your part that terrorists attack based on western culture. I pointed out that other western countries have had terrorist attacks perpetrated on them by terrorists. THAT, my man, was on topic and not changing the subject but something that was related to the argument.

    It looks like now you are resorting to trying to point out that people are avoiding you because somehow they're incompetent, unsure, scared, or just misguided, when in fact, they are just advancing other points within the argument. So when I say, terrorists commit acts against western culture and then you ask in disbelief that terrorists don't do that and point to 9/11, then I to on to say that terrorists have attacked other western nations with less ties to Israel, that was an extension to my initial point. In no way was it changing the subject. Had I started talking about the medical industry or how I think certain governmental agencies have issues, THEN you can accuse me of changing the subject. But when I'm fluidly moving to another argument point that you don't want to either acknowledge or discuss, realize that sometimes that's what happens. It was relevant to the point I was making that you brought into question.
     
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    Last of the Bali bombers to face trial next week.

    Captured in Abbottabad, the bomb maker is suspected of building the bombs that killed 202 people ten years ago plus numerous other bombings. As Indonesian terrorism laws weren't made retrospective he faces murder charges.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-court-on-monday/story-e6freonf-1226267071013

    The 2002 bombing was aimed at foreign tourists (read Australian) in a Kuta bar and several people have already been executed or jailed for their participation. A week after the blasts Arab satellite channel Al-Jazeera put to air an audio-cassette purportedly carrying a recorded voice message from Osama Bin Laden saying that the Bali bombings were in direct retaliation for support of the United States' war on terror and Australia's role in the liberation of East Timor.

    Further bombings took place in 2005, also aimed at foreign tourists

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Bali_bombings

    Bali tourism is still recovering.
     
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    Osama who?
     
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    You might as well say that Anders Behrik Brevik carried out a terrorist attack because of his hatred for the Islamification of Europe.
     
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