Anyone With High Google and MSN Rankings?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Tara33, Jun 22, 2006.

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    I have only recently built and submitted our web site; it is a work in progress, as I will continually be adding products for the life of my business. I understand the issues of PR, anchor text, title & description tags, and most importantly relevant content. I have all of these areas covered, except for PR, which I am working on now (looking for relevant links on directories and information sites). I also understand that the whole Google process takes time - and a little patience. The wait might be a long one, but will hopefully be worthwhile...

    We have been making sales since the last week in April, with approximately 80% of our traffic coming from our Google AdWords ads (10% from Froogle / 5% from MSN). A few weeks ago, I noticed that MSN had our site FULLY indexed, and that we rank VERY WELL for some extremely competitive keywords and keyphrases (approximately 40 - 50 that I know of). For instance, we are #1 and #2 on the HIGHLY COMPETITIVE term "laptop furniture", in MSN. This makes me wonder how we'll fair in the Google SERPS.

    I am familiar with the plight of obtaining good positions in Google, but have never really paid much attention to MSN rankings with past sites that I have built / maintained, so I have no point of reference for my question. Does anyone have a site with comparable positions in Google and MSN? I ask because we are not ranking at all in Google yet, and I have only noticed that Google has begun to "really" index my site within the past three days; I've seen up to 410 pages indexed, but it's been fluctuating between 40 and 410 pages for days now. I have searched and compared rankings of one of my competitors, which has enabled me to assume / speculate on whether I will rank in Google, as I do in MSN. It would be nice to know if anyone can tell me about the comparison / contrast of their SERPS in both engines.

    Any help anyone could offer is greatly appreciated!
     
    Tara33, Jun 22, 2006 IP
  2. CrankyDave

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    I have a site that ranks well in both MSN and Google. It's not atypical for a site to rank well in MSN before Google. MSN tends to get around to indexing the pages quicker and the serps tend to be more content driven.

    Google, links based results and with the implementation of Big Daddy, links based crawling as well. Meaning, you must reach a certain "threshold" when it comes to the number of links and types of links in order for your site to be deemed "worthy" enough to index in it's entirety. Combine the time it takes to achieve a good link base with the time it takes to be recognized as "trusted" and Google naturally takes more time to achieve the desired results.

    Not sure if this is what you were after but hope it helps.

    Dave
     
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  3. Tara33

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    You confirmed my thoughts, and answered my question.
     
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    MSN seems to be easier to manipulate however.
     
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  5. Klemens

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    Hi,
    I have a new site: www.magicdigitalframes.com. How can I check if the site is indexed by these search engines: Google, MSN, Yahoo ? Thanks.

    Klemens.
     
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  6. Web Gazelle

    Web Gazelle Well-Known Member

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    Type site: followed by your URL in the seach for Google. You can also use a firefox extension called search status.
     
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  7. cbin

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    Most of my sites all rank in the top of Google and MSN. Most are also in Yahoo but that one can sometimes effect my rankings on the other engines if I am focusing on it.
     
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  8. SEOEgghead

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    MSN favors titles and URL keywords heavily. It can also be manipulated with a simple internal link scheme. MSN is slowly getting harder to manipulate, though. And the only reason Yahoo is harder to manipulate is that it seems to be total pot luck whether it returns relevent results at all to begin with ...

    And in general, if you get Google, you'll also have MSN ...
     
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  9. Kaediem

    Kaediem Well-Known Member

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    I have high ranking key words in both, msn came faster though as is expected generally.

    Lisa
     
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  10. redhits

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    you go to
    www.google.com
    www.yahoo.com
    www.msn.com
    and write this :
    site:magicdigitalframes.com
    You will also be able to see the pages that are indexed in google

    Also ... please take notice that google dont' make yet a distion from www.site.com and site.com or http://site.com or http://site.com/index.php so you may also want to search for:
    site:www.magicdigitalframes.com
    site:http://magicdigitalframes.com
     
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  11. CJan_NH

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    The five websites I manage rank well on Google, Yahoo, and MSN. The primary sales site here ranks #1 in Google and Yahoo for most of our search terms. One item of concern is that our indexed pages in Google just dropped from 212,000 to 188,000. I'll keep an eye on it-it hasn't turned into a Maalox moment yet ;)
     
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    here is a link that some might find useful. Although the info is pretty basic, I can confirm that the information is pretty darn accurate. Funny thing about it this site is that they seem to know the information before google post it, I found that rather strange, or could it be that they are pulling the information from a data center that I do not check often. Example: yesterday www.index-it.net had only 128 pages indexed by google, today it shot up to 510, then about 15 min later I checked this site again to see what information they had and it showed 714 pages indexed but the info that I was seening still showed only 510. but sure enough we do have 714 pages indexed. And now after checking about 1 hour ago the number has climbed to 739 pages indexed.

    This is a good site it shows you how many pages are indexed by google and how much link popularity you have from MSN and Yahoo.

    Here is there link http://www.google-page-rank.net
     
    banless, Jun 25, 2006 IP