Anyone want a cut of 600 Billion Dollars?

That's a real typical capitalist way of thinking, I must say. Yes the oil company do what they do, but you can also apply the same ideology to tobacco companies, or even better, coccaine industry in south america. They exist, they have their own system, and they work, but it doesn't make them good.

The reason we form societies, make laws, create government is so because things can be done the right way with everyone's best interest. Oil companies now shares too big of a tie with the people in power, and it is dangerous what kind of impact they can have with every decision they make now. It should not have been allowed in the first place. But it happened, and we should be ashamed of it, not to justifiy it so it looks like we never got anything wrong.

Sorry I always seem to be talking about principles instead of factual discussion. I'm just not too big on arguing over little things. Bush's administraion is seriously flawed on principles, anyway.

 

Honestly, I don't know what you mean Labour is Tony's party, correct? And he got elected

 

Nor does "we're their to steal oil" with absolutely no foundation. But who would have thought?

 

Sorry, I am not as educated about these things as GTech or some others. Anthony is very educated as well. However when it comes time for him to interpret what he has learned, he will drop the information that was inconvenient for him and then pick the few out of context lines which he uses to prove himself right.

Sorry, Anthony, but that is how I see it ...

 

That would be, because I'm a capitalist. I earn my own living. I do not expect my government to give me every whim and need I have. I have the opportunity to succeed and I use that opportunity.

Some people prefer handouts. Some people think their governments should provide for their every need.

 

Great post my man, the above is one of the best posts in DP History, you hit the nail on the head and I am sending green your way

 

This is eactly what I mean. You are not exactly someone who knows nothing and considering we are one of your biggest 'allles'. It shows how far outside of the US many look - No offence, but it is a question of need rather than any other reason. The US is a VERY big place in every sense, there is little need to look abroad for many of its citizens (as Not_so_Crazy_Rob said earlier) without specific interest.

Due to our system you could win 100% majority in parliament with around 650 votes or so I believe. We have whats called First past the post. A system where you win by 1 vote in your local area and you win (there are about 650 ish areas). So yes Blair won, with 25% or so.

 

DA, just to get a better understand of your last post...are you disappointed in that system? Is there effort being made to change your system of voting?

 

But I believe Iraqi should be left out of this Capitalism of yours... if they were ever given such option? And when you insist on putting it upon them, I wonder which side of the Capitalism they will end up...?

 

So it is fine to sell porn, guns and dope as long as you can make a buck, damn GTech, maybe I should become a hit man because there is good money in it

 

This is what America has always been based on. We have more opportunity than any other nation on earth but also less of a safety net than many European nations. Everyone wants a piece of us and when things don't work out, people get frustrated and blame the system. It doesn't add up for me. We are what we are and the best thing to do is make the best out of your lives and do what you can to make a good living for yourself and your loved ones. I personally think there should be more of a safety net but believe in our system overall. It's based on survival of the fittest, but how can people succeed when they spend all their time and energy complaining instead of getting in on the race ...

 

What race TOOT, the one to import all manufactured goods from China, our enemy

Do you even know what made America great in the first place man

It was manufacturing might and we are losing that.

Oil and war greed has destroyed this nation and it is about time you learn this.

 

For 15 years the government that wants to win says ther will change it to PR (propertional representation). But of course when they get in power that idea goes straight out of the window.

Hence, years of cons and now years or labour. Always reasonably strong governments though. No hung parliaments or anything like that.

 

We have laws to regulate such industries. Who am I to say someone cannot sell guns when our Constitution guarantees all the right to bear arms? Who am I to say someone cannot sell porn, when it's been fought at the supreme court?

Dope? No. It's illegal here.

So to answer your question, except dope (or something that was illegal by our laws), you bet, it's fine to sell anything to make a buck. Isn't that what business do, sell goods and services to consumers that want them?

 

The main reason we are losing is division amongst ourselves when it comes to international business and politics IMO

 

Where do you draw the line ? Where the law says or your morals?

 

You would not think that if you lived next to a pawn shop and someone bought a gun and robbed the guy next door (YOU)

How about if your kids got hold of some easy porn, is that alright with you too

PS: Contact me GTech, I have some great ideas for Gun and Porn sites and you can build them for me and we can make BIG MONEY

PSS: I get to interview all the WebCam Models GTech and set up the cameras

 

Which is why it is important to keep in mind that we are not trying to WIN in a discussion, but to understand what could the problem be, and what we might do to improve it. This is supposed to be the job of the politicians, but too bad the word "con" is the opposite of the word "pro", thus our Congress never make any progress. So it is up to the citizens to have good awareness of what's going on.

 

I'd be more than happy to learn it, if you could actually substantiate it. The problem is, you go with your feelings on the issue, rather than facts.

Manufacturing...we've manufactured outside the US for years. I don't recall any of your posts whailing about all the Heinz ketchup factories overseas when John Kerry was running.

We manufacturer outside the US to keep prices down. If we didn't, then you would be on here complaining about the price of sneakers at Walmart being $500.00 instead of $19.99. But loosing manufacturing jobs to keep prices low is not new, to this administration, or any other. It's been going on for a hundred years now during both Democrat and Republican administrations.

 

Is that why Bush is putting pressure on China to unpeg their currency right now GTech???

The administration knows under their leadership this nation is economic toast, even GM is going broke because of high oil prices, Toyota and the other imports are taking giant share

What about the military bases your hero wants to close?????

Even you can not think that will raise his approval ratings