Anyone promoting Earth4Energy?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by petyard, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. #1
    Is is just me or they remove the affiliate ID if you click from a PDF file or anything else but a browser?

    When I click the same link from a pdf file, for example, it points me to http://www.earth4energy.com/ with no affiliate ID

    When I copy paste the same url in the browser it points to http://www.earth4energy.com/index02.php and my Id is here?

    Why is that? Anyone noticed this before?? Try for yourself? If this is some kind of split testing, why I don't see the affiliate ID all the time?

    LE. This is weird..sometimes the homepage has the ID, sometimes it doesnt..
     
    petyard, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  2. Fredby

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    #2
    Check whether your id appears on the payment page
     
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  3. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    not always..just created the hoplink, copy pasted in an empty word file, clicked and the ID is gone..
    I copy paste the same link in the browser and bum..my ID is back
    clear cookies, cache and repeat the steps..same story!
     
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  4. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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  5. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #5
    It's normal, they remove the your ID from the URL on purpose, and yes, they are split testing.

    All it matters is whether your affiliate ID shows on bottom of the payment page
     
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  6. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    that's the problem, it doesn't many times!
    maybe someone can double check that
     
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  7. Darkeralice

    Darkeralice Peon

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    Has greenDIYEnergy left clickbank?
    i don't see them on the marketplace anymore
    and their sales page (as stated here) is not a clickbank one.

    What happened?
     
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  8. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I see them at the marketplace:
    http://cb-analytics.com/product.php?id=SOLARDIY

    They are still on clickbank, however, they have a special clickbank payment link, with which they're able to put their banner on the payment page, also, this product accepts physical orders, which is something new that clickbank is still testing out, hence, that's why the payment page looks so different than the payment page for the other products.
     
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  9. Darkeralice

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    Yup,
    correct.
    don't know how i missed it.
    Note something interesting on the new sales page.
    the domain of the sales page resides on E4E domain and not on clickbank.
    This is the first time i ever see a clickbank buy page not on a clickbank domain.
    This may have many implications regarding the future.
    first thing that comes to mind is my theory that clickbank days on adwords
    are numbered as google in the longer run may decide to ban any clickbank related products (identify them by the clickbank sales page) ,
    possibly this is clickbank's way of staying ahead of the curve.

    I also think that having the sales page on the vendors actual domain
    may affect conversion ratio's (don't know which way though), as this raises trust issues by the customer
    from one direction the customer may feel safer to buy via a known processor 3'rd party domain which is clickbank
    on the second direction given clickbank's history the customer may decide
    not to buy via a clickbank domain if he ever bought a clickbank product and felt cheated.

    Also notice that the new sales page has no "affiliate= "
    how is an affiliate suppose to know if his hops are going through?
     
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  10. jacky8

    jacky8 Active Member

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    #10
    I have heard this for a lot of times now. I have been promoting E4E via some accounts for a lot of time now & devoted a lot of energy to it. I'm sorry but after confirming all the bad things from petyard & others here, I'm gonna change the E4E links to greendiyenergy or efficientplanet.
    BTW, isn't there any way to contact clickbank about this?
    Once it happened for a low gravity product i promote, I contacted the owner about this. After getting no response from him, I contacted CB support. They didn't ban him but removed the product from the marketplace. The vendor stepped in after a few days, did the corrections and he was back! He lost nothing, but i lost a lot of sales. I think CB should take stricter action in such issues OR we can just stop promoting such a vendor.
    Again, sorry for all this but we affiliates do not want to give away free targeted traffic.
     
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  11. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    #11

    are you saying that you tested and noticed the same thing?
    If that is the case, this is really bad!
    I still think I missed something because I promote products of the same owner and never had a problem...I believe his nickname is Sverd?
     
    petyard, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  12. evelinawilliams007

    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    #12
    Yeah, that one of the vendor's in Clickbank that has removed the ID on purpose and I think it's a smart move as long customers don't see any weird numbers or funny ID's in the browser's search box..
     
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  13. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    I am talking about the Cb's payment page..
     
    petyard, Oct 13, 2009 IP
  14. akitmane

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    #14
    but for yet, who is the better?
     
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  15. Swerd

    Swerd Active Member

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    #15
    Thought I would clear some things up.

    E4E does not remove any CB cookies. We remove the hop=xxx part from the address bar.

    Also, we split test the page so some people will see index.php some will see index02.php

    We do not clear any CB cookies.

    EG: Visit this hoplink: http://testid.earth4.hop.clickbank.net/?opt1=off&opt2=off OR http://testid.earth4.hop.clickbank.net/

    Then click the order button on the e4e webpage. (either from index.php or index02.php)

    Scroll to the bottom of the CB order page and you should see: [affiliate = testid]

    If you do not see this your PC my have some type of sypware/adware.
     
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    2-4-K Peon

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    #16
    I know of some publishers who do some shonky things, makes no sense.

    For a little effort you could actually have the PDF's branded with the aff links hardcoded into them so even if the cookies have been deleted from a previous session (very common) the original affiliate still gets the comm.

    but hey, obviously the publisher gets a sale either way so I dont suppose to many will go to that effort.
     
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #17
    Well, things like this are easy to check.

    For most vendors, 85-90% of the sales are referred by affiliates, the other 10-15% are no affiliate sales, meaning, usually 1 sale in 10, is a 'no affiliate' sale.

    Simply go to:
    http://cb-analytics.com/product.php?id=EARTH4

    And check the 'referred' graph (this is official clickbank data) , earth4energy has a referred rate in the 85-90% area which means everything is alright with the cookies. The OP is probably having some kind of spyware or software blocking some of the cookies.
     
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  18. petyard

    petyard Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Swerd for the reply. There must be something wrong with my browser/pc.
     
    petyard, Oct 14, 2009 IP
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    Earth4Energy is a good product. Im surpised so many people would buy it.
     
    Skagenweb, Oct 17, 2009 IP
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    Slightly OT, but: I seriously can't wait till CB open up that order page skinning to everyone! :)
     
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