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Anyone notices great ranking in MSN?

Discussion in 'Bing' started by linkgangster, Jan 22, 2005.

  1. #1
    MSN algo seems to give lots of weights in anchor text.

    I tested one of my sites by giving lots of backlinks with **relevant anchor text** and <H1> tag. Wow! No. spot 1 in MSN after 9 days! Good traffic too :D

    No complaints but if this is going to be... I'd just scrape link exchange and use more ads. in the coop.

    Can anyone compile a FAQ showing members how to legally increase weights? :D
     
    linkgangster, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  2. SportsOutlaw

    SportsOutlaw Active Member

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    MSN has been a great friend to me lately as well. Especially since when you to to MSN.com, they have begun using the beta search engine.
     
    SportsOutlaw, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  3. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    Looks like I'll have to roll out that beta (nichedynamics.com) sooner than planned ;)

    Actually, were it not for the coop here, a lot of ppl would not be in such a good position on MSN (this includes me).. the question though - if it's this easy to influence results on MSN, how long is it going to last ?

    Cheers

    JL
     
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  4. david_sakh

    david_sakh Peon

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    Are the H1, H2, etc. tags useful in SEO? I don't even use it. :eek:

    What if you just use generic headers in a table?
     
    david_sakh, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  5. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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  6. ViciousSummer

    ViciousSummer Ayn Rand for President! Staff

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    Yep, I'm #1 in MSN for almost all of my keywords. Sweet! :D
     
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  7. uca

    uca Peon

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    Are you kidding? :)

    They are very very effective! Of course H1 first!
     
    uca, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  8. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    My ranks at MSN are incredible, I am #1 for a keyword I was targeting, with almost 23 million results. All my other keywords are top 10 there.

    However, the traffic I get is about 1% of what Google sends me.
     
    fryman, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  9. dejaone

    dejaone Well-Known Member

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    msn could generate some traffic if the keywords have a reasonable popularity (# of times searched). I used to get about less than 10 visitors from msn a day. now I get about 200 from msn.
     
    dejaone, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  10. linkgangster

    linkgangster Peon

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    High traffic via Google is due to massive users.

    To get good traffic (as good as in Google) via MSN, we need to pick the right keywords. Maybe I'm a bit lucky, because I have almost equal amount of traffic that I get from Google for certain keywords.

    Is there a traffic estimation report for keywords in MSN? Looks like a great business opportunity to sell such reports, if MSN continues its domination plan :D
     
    linkgangster, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  11. linkgangster

    linkgangster Peon

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    John, do you still need beta tester?
     
    linkgangster, Jan 22, 2005 IP
  12. john_loch

    john_loch Rodent Slayer

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    Yes, I'll be needing beta testers and you're welcome to participate. Once it's ready to go, I'll be emailing those ppl who've registered at nichedynamics.com, though I was joking about the early rollout ;)

    Cheers,

    JL
     
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  13. zez

    zez Peon

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    I'm #1 in MSN for many of my keywords. Great!
     
    zez, Jan 29, 2005 IP
  14. Design Agent

    Design Agent Peon

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    I am ranking well for a new site (a few weeks old) somewhere around 2, out of a couple of mil - that kind of level, Very low traffic levels though.
     
    Design Agent, Jan 30, 2005 IP
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    xtree Peon

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    I am getting good results with MSN (#1 for my main keyword) almost without any help from anchor text (just a few backlinks from forums). At the same time the site ranks nowhere (top 250) with Google for the same keyword phrase. My explanation on that is that MSN is giving more weight to optimization than Google does.
     
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  16. CanadianEh

    CanadianEh Notable Member

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    Bill Gates rules (never thought I would say that)

    I am getting awesome results for a 1 month old site that seems to be sandboxed in Google and nowhere in Yahoo.

    Its not just link text. I have some #1s that I probably don't have any link text for.

    The one page has a really high keyword density (just over 10%).
     
    CanadianEh, Jan 30, 2005 IP
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    dakar Active Member

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    Same thing here.... top 10 for most of my targeted keywords (and a lot that I haven't targeted for)... the msnbot has been very bust lately...
    Spider visits for my forums for the past 36 hours;
    Google visits: 242 | MSN visits: 808 | Yahoo visits: 158

    Oddly enough I'm also seeing about 20% referrring traffic from MSN compared to ~10% from G.
     
    dakar, Jan 31, 2005 IP
  18. CanadianEh

    CanadianEh Notable Member

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    Same here but it is understandable because the masses are still using Google.

    We have to the word out to the world that MSN is the best.
    :D
     
    CanadianEh, Jan 31, 2005 IP
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    dfsweb Active Member

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    I just built my new site last fortnight (the one in my signature). It went live on the 14th of January, and I started submitting to search engines and directories on the 17th or so. Yesterday, I saw some traffic from search engines in my stats, so I checked "New Zealand Photography" on MSN and I have been ranked #2. I love MSN!! :)

    I haven't optimised any of the pages for any specific keywords, but have "New Zealand Photography" in the anchor text in all back-links (only around 200 so far, as I have just started promoting the site), in the title and a H1 tag on the home page.

    Google on the other hand will probably chuck my site in the sandbox for a few months. I don't get it. On one hand, they promise "fresh results" and on the other hand, they provide those "fresh results" from sites that are at least a few months old. What about fresh content from new websites?? Having said that, I do know that I won't get as much traffic from MSN's SERPs as I would get from Google, once I get ranked of course. So, I will continue working on my BLs to please Google!
     
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  20. M2D

    M2D Peon

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    The New MSN Search is indeed most excellent!
     
    M2D, Feb 1, 2005 IP