Anyone know this math problem?

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  1. sachin410

    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    #21
    Pythagorean theorem is applicable to right triangles only.

    Unless we assume bisects here means to divide equally into two, there are infinite number of solutions to this problem.
     
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    pjk Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Yeah, Pythagorean only works if the triangle is right. So you can't use that here.
     
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    #23
    Also, DB and AC would have to be perpendicular for the two bisected pieces to be equal to eachother.
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #24
    2+2= 22
    see i'm good at that too:rolleyes:
     
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    #25
    My clinical eye tells me there's no way that AE= 6 and EC can be 10.7...That's like almost 5 above the AC and that is not proven through visualization :p.
    Still think it's 6 if you maths dudes can't find any EC value under 8 :p
    I've even measured in my CTR monitor :p
     
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    future Banned

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    #26
    Web master doing Maths, Amazing stuff man. Me too dont Like Maths wokyoh
     
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  7. Roman

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    #27
    Look at DA and DC, they almost look the same yet DA=8 and DC=12, the picture is not to scale. The answer is 10.77......
     
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    #28
    IMO, the answer is nine....:)

    My Logic-
    That ray becomes an angle bisector
    Therefore the angle bisector property comes into play.
     
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  9. Roman

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    #29
    Let me break it down for those of you that are mathematically challenged:

    Since DB bisects AC that means both DEA and DEC form right angles so you have 2 right angle triangles and we all know, or should know that A²+B²=C² thus:

    In the triangle DEA side A=DE, side B=AE and side C=DA thus:
    DE²+AE²=DA² thus:
    DE²+6²=8² thus:
    DE²+36=64 thus:
    DE²=28 thus:
    DE²=square root of 28 thus:
    DE=5.2915

    In the triangle DEC side A=DE, side B=EC and side C=DC thus:
    DE²+AC²=DC² thus:
    5.2915²+DC²=12² thus:
    28+DC²=144 thus:
    DC²=116 thus:
    DC²=square root of 116 thus:
    DC=10.770329614269008062501420983081
     
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    gr8liverpoolfan Notable Member

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    #30
    Roman, AFAIK bisecting just means dividing into two equal parts. It need not necessarily mean right angles.
     
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    #31
    I hated math as well. But I'm curious to what the answer is
    now. 6 seems to be a popular answer, is it right?
     
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    #32
    If it divides in two equal parts and the AC is a 180º angle, then it divides that in two, therefore EC=6...
     
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    #33
    Assuming here bisecting means equally dividing, I get ce=9

    ade = cde (equal arcs inscribe equal angles)

    dac = 1.5* dca (in ratio of their opposite sides.)

    Similarly

    de/ae = dac/ade...1
    de/ce = dca/cde...2

    dividing eqn 1 by eqn 2

    ce/ae = dac/dca = 1.5

    ce = 1.5*ae

    ce = 9
     
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    #34
    Ray DB bisects arc AC thus cutting the arc in half between points A and C which makes Ray AC perpendicular to Ray DB creating 2 right angle triangles.
     
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    #35

    If it divides the arc does that mean it divides the AC in half?
     
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    #36
    Look at what I had said in short in post no.28 of this thread :eek:
     
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    #38
    Hmmm, yes it would and since AC is a straigth line and you have 2 right triangles with 2 sides the same in each triangle then the third must be the same in each triangle, but it isn't which makes the whole problem impossible, my brain hurts.

    If AE = 6 and EC = 6 and DE is common to both then DA and DC must be equal but they are not stated as such.
     
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    #39
    See...

    We're all right!
    This math problem sucks, bring one that really makes sense! :D :D
     
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  20. gr8liverpoolfan

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    #40
    In the figure that Twan has provided us, the ray bisects the arc, not the line. When a line bisects another line/ arc/ any other geometric figure, it means that it divides it into two. Only if the line was a perpendicular bisector to AC, would the right angles and equal measures come up.

    Therefore in this case, m arc ( axb) = m arc ( bxc)
    That means that angle adb = angle cdb

    m angle adb = m angle cdb = 1/2 of the measure of the arc.

    That makes the ray an angle bisector of the angle D
    DA/ AE = DC/CE ( the actual property states that DA/ DC = AE/ CE- )

    8/6 = 12/ CE
    CE is 9
     
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