anyone experienced problems with buying templates?

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    #41
    He says he's doing it "professionally" He just wants to take a gamble that paypal won't refund me. I'm sorry if you think this is "blackening your name". I contacted you saying I was not happy and that I blatantly found you reselling work, choping themes to make a quick buck. You blocked me so I posted it here to get some opinions. I can't believe after all of this you still will not refund.

    Just refund already..

    also thanks to everyone for the support, $50 is a decent some of money to me.
     
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    #42
    It seems a Paypal dispute has been put forward for this transaction. It will be interesting to see Paypal's view of this.
     
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    #43
    Yep, Cheap SEO Services was kind enough to loan me the money at that time. Hopefully paypal will see the light..
     
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    #44
    The issue has been acknowledged. If as you say is true you resold my theme to another buyer, is it not infact me who has a claim? You have violated the copyrights not only with this theme but in publishing images you have no copyright too in your original post.

    I'm also interested in seeing where the theme is being used and how it is failing to validate now when it was perfectly fine when sold... If you'd care to provide a URL via PM I'd like to see for myself what the issue is, not that it is at all relevant considering you had absolutely no right to sell it on.

    Please do not attempt to continue a petty argument on this board, the issue is now in the hands of the relevant people.

    The reason I have not refunded is not one of these people has the knowledge or authority to make such a decision except information provided by you. If paypal AND ONLY PAYPAL deem it a requirement, a refund will be issued. Unless this occurs it will not.

    Finally, in the vain hope that those of you reading this are actually taking note: He asked me to perform another coding job for him not hours before he started this thread. If the code was invalid and sub-par, why do this? Would you buy a second TV from the same store if the first one you bought was wired incorrectly? It's exactly the same thing.

    This is the theme you purchased
    http://www.rockfeeder.com/themes/

    This is the theme validating in W3C
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

    Please explain how it's not valid...

    1. You claim I did not inform you that you did not have Full Rights.

    You admit yourself here that I did
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=5699438&postcount=13

    Although you claim I did so after the transaction, even if this were the case (And it was not) why did you not immediately ask for a refund instead of waiting two weeks and asking me to modify the theme for you?

    2. You have ADMITTED you knew you didn't own full rights. but in your paypal dispute you say you've sold this theme on to another buyer.

    This is a copyright violation and I would be well within my rights to demand the same fee again that you paid originally.


    3. You claim the theme was not valid

    It was valid as are all my themes. I do not sell a theme until I have checked it. I did not do the extra work to validate the theme, I changed the CSS to style it the way you wanted, changing colours, fonts and font sizes etc. as well as form elements.

    This is the theme you purchased
    http://www.rockfeeder.com/themes/

    This is the theme validating in W3C
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...Inline&group=0

    4. You claim it is not widget ready.

    I can only assume you don't know what a widget is, because it certainly is widget ready.

    5. You came to me hours before you started this thread asking me to do more coding work for you, something no right thinking person would do if the previous work had been poor (Which it was not).



    Now everyone who has got involved in this matter, rightly or wrongly: take a look at this post and then tell me this guy is being honest and that I'm a scammer. He has lied multiple times and I have provided evidence proving it wherever possible.

    By his own words he admits he KNEW he did not have full rights, yet he has sold my theme on and attempted to get a refund. I think it's obvious now who is attempting to scam who.

    THATS Why I have not refunded him, and thats why I encouraged him to go to PayPal. They will not order a refund because he has no legal leg to stand on.
     
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    #45
    It seems there has been some confusion with 2 Wordpress templates purchased and both have problems. The dispute with Crimsonc was not for a widget problem at all. That dispute is with another seller. However, this template dispute is something different and now Paypal has already closed the case and I would gather it is because of the type of claim put forth.

    I guess TechBlog needs to do a bit of homework next time any transactions take place. I have not lost any money but he certainly has.

    But to put matters straight. TehcBlog has a valid argument about the rights. What Crimsonc stated in the thread versus what was said outside the thread shows the terms were never clear and should have been cleared up prior to any financial transactions taking place.

    Let's just all end this discussion right here and now and move along with our lives. I, for one, am over it already.
     
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    #46
    The issues he raised in his PayPal dispute with me were that it was A) Not Widget Ready B) Invalid

    He admits himself he knew he did not own the rights, so how can it possibly be a valid argument? You don't even need to take my word for it, he's admitted it himself!

    Ideally I'd like an apology for dragging my name through the dirt when it's obvious you've (techblog) made the mistakes.
     
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    #47
    You're saying I don't own full rights when the thread said "FULL RIGHTS". I gave you $50 dollars and full rights to my signature. Yep I made the mistakes of making 3 crappy templates and selling them to make a quick buck.

    The theme was widget ready but not fully valid. I was supposed to email cheap seo services but I forgot so he got confused and put in the wrong details for the chargeback. The main problem is the fact that the sidebar and background are in other themes. Also so is the footer.

    So stop trying to act like you're a professional. You're just a shitty wordpress coder trying to make a quick buck.

    also where did I admit I did not own full rights?

    EDIT here are the pms I sent when I first bought the template which he thinks gave him full right to the theme after the thread title was "FULL RIGHTS"

    "Sorry to pm you again, but my current offer is 1 sig link for 1 year, (change it as much as you want) resell it too. and 50 dollars. I also will leave the link to your site in the footer and hope to get the blog high pagerank.."

    see the change it as much as you like.. that was obvious for the signature link not the theme it's self. You use your common sense. Thread title said "FULL RIGHTS" then you think because you sold it to me cheaper that I don't have full rights.

    I also said this in another PM "what about 50 and 1 sig link for 1 year? ".
     
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    #48
    It sucks you got scammed techblog, just remember this in the future and be weary of the people you deal with on DP. Crimsonc has a tarnished name here now on DP just because a professional seller would have refunded no questions ask, when your in business customer service always comes first. Lesson learned, time to move on?
     
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    #49
    Of course I'm learned a lesson, although there is not much I could have done when buying it. I guess I have learned a bit of a lesson, not everyone is reasonable. You can see my by first post that before he sold me that template with "FULL RIGHTS" that he has already reproduced it on other websites.
     
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    #50
    Again you're lying. You want to continue this issue STILL? Contact me via PM or email, it concerns no one else.

    HE HAS OPENLY ADMITTED HE KNEW HE DID NOT HAVE FULL RIGHTS, AS PROVED IN PREVIOUS POSTS


    What else can I do? If you're all going to believe this kid who has chopped and changed his story, contradicted himself and proved me right, thats your prerogative. I do get the feeling a lot of you aren't actually reading all the posts.

    He was wrong, period. Paypal have deemed him wrong as well.
     
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    #51
    I agree with him on this point. Stop fighting in public, and conduct this privately.
     
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    #52
    He blocked me on msn and won't reply to my PMs. I've made this thread to warn people and to get opinions. You've got my msn and you can pm me..
     
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    #53
    I'd have to step in here and say "Paypal did not deem him wrong at all".

    The chargeback info I entered was for a different chargeback for a different transaction. That's why they closed it so quickly.
     
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    #54
    basing business decisions on the basis of paypal charge backs is no way to run a design business.
     
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    #55
    I was just searching google and came across this thread. I am the owner of Weooza and I am the one who designed it (psd and all) and I had him code it for me. He used that background as an example graphic, and if you see at http://weooza.com it is not used on my site. What he did is wrong, but i want to state that the footer image on my site is not from your theme and I created that without looking at your design or anybody else's designs. Its a common style, and thats pretty much where it ends. I am sorry for your loss, i just was hoping you could remove my sites image because I had no part to do with this.

    Matthew
     
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    #56
    No, our footers look similar and I paid for it. Hence it's mine and i'll keep it here. I don't care if he used as an example graphic, how about I sell a theme then use it as a free example.. yeh kk.
     
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    Tech Blog, our footer doesn't look anything alike. Your graident is very unprofessional and the whole design wasn't done well at all.

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    A more accurate image would be:

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    And i did not even use that on my site once... because it obviously doesn't go with the design. Please be a little more professional with this, as Crimsonc was the one who did this, not me, so you don't need to rip my design either.

    If you knew anything about template design you would notice that things can be similar and not be "ripped". I would not look twice at your template for "taking" ideas from it. Mine is totally original and its an insult to say its similar to yours.
     
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    #58
    "They can be similar and not ripped" The background was the same. I thought you owned the other one, that's why I said the footer.

    The real fact is this guy said in thread title "FULL RIGHTS" I bought it at a cheaper price which he thought that I still don't have full rights.
     
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    Techblog, you have already admitted you didn't have full rights, everyone has seen you say it, who are you trying to kid now? It doesn't matter if the theme was advertised with full rights or not, you knew that you would not have full rights at the price you paid.

    It's time to give it up.
     
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    #60
    LOL you make me laugh so bad. I never said anywhere that I did not have full rights. lol @ "it's time to give it up" - Just refund me the money and you we can move on. It's not my fault you did not pass grade 7 english. You misread the fact that I was giving you rights to my signature, not rights to the template.

    So, issue a refund and we can put this to bed.
     
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