Anyone else notice the iframers making it to top of SERPs

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by apples2, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. #1
    I'm not saying it's the first time it's happened, probably been happening for a while but I just didn't notice it...

    If you run a google search on: fat loss for idiots

    You see this at the top of the organic search results. Not paid, not adwords. I'm talking FREE organic listings

    Fat Loss 4 Idiots
    Fat Loss 4 Idiots - Learn how to lose 9 pounds every 11 days!
    www fatloss4idiats com/ - 2k - Cached - Similar pages

    That crap is nothing but an iframe. When a user clicks on the link the page opens the merchant page inside an iframe. A cookie gets dropped, and that site gets the sale.

    When you open up that page and look at the source code there's no content. Just the damn iframe with the clickbank hop link.

    Fucking homerun hitters. <--- offensive remark used to be here :D

    Check the markets you're in. Run a search on the product name. Then look at the top of the organic listings. Wonder how many iframers there are...

    Every time someone clicks on that organic listing all previous cookies get overwritten.
     
    apples2, Dec 17, 2008 IP
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't seem like blackhat, it's normal practice, and it's not illegal or wrong.

    He's just doing a frame redirect, i.e redirecting with his affiliate link, however the difference between this and a normal redirect is that his URL stays in the URL box. This is not cookie stuffing, this is direct linking.

    However the fact that he's ranking #1 for fat loss 4 idots is really strange, since he's simply doing frame redirect, because he doesn't have any content. Strange stuff
     
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  3. apples2

    apples2 Peon

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    Yeah, it's not illegal or even blackhat with the iframe. Clickbank allows it.

    But being able to reach the top ranking on a competitive keyword with zero content is not an accident and I definitely wouldn't call it normal.

    They know exactly what they're doing. Saw the same thing on a different product two days ago.

    Gonna start to see these iframes polluting the SERPs once more people figure out how they're doing it.
     
    apples2, Dec 17, 2008 IP
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    mill123 Active Member

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    pr5 too innit?
     
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    Soooo because someone can manipulate the system better then you, you dislike them? Just for that STUPID comment I think I will start running clickbank products just piss people like you off....

    As apposed to whining in a forum about how someone is kicking your ass in the SERPS, why not figure out how they did it and out do them?
     
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    Not sure why you think this guy is Blackhat apples2.

    If you reverse engineer the site you can see they have done a pretty good job with their articles, Squidoo lenses, press releases and viral marketing to build backlinks - all quite easy for anybody to do.
     
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    Yeah, that's a big label to put on someone and I think I was generalizing. So I'm gonna apologize to whoever owns that site for associating them with that.

    Now I'm just talking about search results. Yes there's a lot of links, good clean links. All pointing to a blank page. Zero content at the top position. It is a spam page. It displays an exact duplicate of another site.

    Not exactly what Google envisioned. That's what made me think it's manipulated beyond the normal link building strategies.
     
    apples2, Dec 17, 2008 IP