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Any worth WhatsApp alternatives?

Discussion in 'Social Networks' started by Konnock, Jan 19, 2021.

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    I think all of us already know about the latest WhatsApp privacy policy changes. And I'm sure that many already refused from that app. But what should we choose?
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    Signal so much promoted by Elon Mask faces troubles getting so many new users. Telegram can be deleted from Apple Store for its numerous channels they don't ban. Moreover, both of these messengers require a phone number during the registration, which is not safe also.

    I've seen a Utopia p2p alternative https://utopia-ecosystem.com/ but it's not very wide known and I'm not sure whether it's worth trying and trusting.

    So the question is what to choose instead of WhatsApp in order to stay safe and secured?
     
    Konnock, Jan 19, 2021 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I've found that if you tell people that you only use XYZ which is free they'll use it too.

    I'm lucky enough to be a politically stable country so signal isn't used by anyone I know. See if the people you need secure comms with are happy to use signal and let us know why they're resistant and we might be able to help you work past that.
     
    sarahk, Jan 19, 2021 IP
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    I won't be so sure. Not all the promoted things are widely used.People listen to one person and don't even think. But all that promoted stuff is not secured for me as it requires a mobile number. So I'd better choose something not so wide known, but more safe.
     
    Warren Willy, Jan 24, 2021 IP
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    Well, I can tell you picked an interesting app. It is, indeed, worthy of the attention of users as it is a whole ecosystem. In light of the latest WhatsApp Privacy Policy scandal, the fact that Utopia p2p does not require any personal data from users, this application has received a lot of attention.
     
    Konnock, Jan 25, 2021 IP
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    Hello everyone!.

    I think everyone is already aware of the latest news about the change in the privacy policy of WhatsApp? After that, a series of scandals related to Telegram and Signal followed.

    At the moment, I set myself the goal of finding the most reliable and secure messenger. I also saw the news about the growing popularity of the Utopia P2P ecosystem https://utopia-ecosystem.com/ .

    What do you think, is it worth paying attention to it?
     
    Konnock, Jan 25, 2021 IP
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    I'd still go for Signal
     
    walker987, Jan 26, 2021 IP
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    And doesn't the fact that it requires a phone number make you feel awkward? I prefer something really anonymous as I believe all these services with phone numbers will follow WhatsApp one day.. So you'll have to look for other alternatives.

    I think that Signal and Telegram will follow WhatsApp sooner or later. As all the soft that require a phone number can use it or enclose your data to third parties on request. So maybe your alternative is better, but not many people will trust it due to a closed sourse. For me it's not a problem, I don't really have much to hide, but look for anonymity anyway.
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I can walk down the road to the corner shop, buy a $5 sim card and be up and running in minutes and nobody knows who that sim card belongs to.

    The authorities can track my movements and monitor my comms if they want to.

    Let's say I was a bad guy but the authorities don't know my phone number.
    By staking out my home they'd very quickly be able to tell which cell phones were pinging towers when I was home and isolate my number.
    If I use mobile data I'm guessing they'd be able to very quickly identify my network.
    From there could put a warrant out to collect all comms made by the phone.

    So your app that doesn't request a phone number is only adding one or two steps to a surveillance program.
     
    sarahk, Jan 28, 2021 IP
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    Well, I kind of saw the latest news that the Bot in Telegram, using Facebook accounts, allowed access to hidden user numbers. If this seems normal to you, then I don't. Where is the guarantee that this will not happen with the Signal?
     
    Konnock, Jan 29, 2021 IP
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    It's not only about a phone number, it's a separate blockchain built especially for that project. Your account couldn't be accessed from any other device and no one could decrypt any of your messages there.
     
    Warren Willy, Feb 6, 2021 IP
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    Come on, I keep looking for information about this project, the developers are trying to build their own web space. They have their own browser, file storage has recently appeared. It looks impressive.
     
    Konnock, Feb 9, 2021 IP
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    What I observed by exploring Discord can be the best alternative to WhatsApp.
     
    brack nelson, Feb 10, 2021 IP
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    Well, all of us forgot about Discord, but it seems a little old-fashioned to me.. Or maybe I'm thinking about something else. And have you heard a Sicher name? Something new and encrypted, but I'm hearing about it for the 1st time..
     
    Warren Willy, Feb 16, 2021 IP
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    Oh, wow. I must admit that this is the first time I've heard about such applications... Apparently I don't know much about them.=)
     
    Konnock, Feb 16, 2021 IP
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    Not heard about utopia, but I'll definitely check it, right now I'm using Telegram as a WhatsApp alternative
     
    usaukclassifieds, Feb 16, 2021 IP
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    You know, I love Telegram for its functions and its design, but I don't like the fact that I have to provide my phone number in order to use it. Looking for a full privacy, Utopia is best for me right now. Mobile version will be also released soon.
     
    Warren Willy, Feb 18, 2021 IP
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    I don't trust Telegram. Especially after the data of telegram users were repeatedly sold on the darknet after hacker attacks. Yes, and I do not believe in the safety of this application.
     
    Konnock, Feb 21, 2021 at 4:02 AM IP
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    I wouldnt stress too much about it. They have confirmed that your privacy remains intact.
     
    Maxpayne89, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:17 PM IP