Any reason for a site to move down in rankings

Discussion in 'SEO' started by LanceT, Nov 11, 2006.

  1. #1
    My site used to rank in the first page for a keyword, however, everyday it keeps sinking lower while pages from less relevant sites are moving higher. Is there usually a reason for this?
     
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  2. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    Are you still working on gettin new links and content? How old is the site, are you going in the sandbox? Are you linking to any "bad neighbourhoods"? Gaining links too fast? How competitive is the keyword? Any duplicate content? Could be lots of things..
     
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  3. mobilebay

    mobilebay Active Member

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    wel mine has done the same and many others seem there has bben either an update or rollback or combo or hell knows but definetly affected traffic and kw rankings
     
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    same here....
     
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  5. Franck S

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    Guys do you have original content or you took article from free article directories?

    Are you updating your site, do you have a sitemap?

    Do you understand LSI?
     
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  6. mobilebay

    mobilebay Active Member

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    all original content, g sitemap, sitemap updated everyday with at least one page and news item written from scratch LSI erm probaly but don't know what it stands for may -- Love sex intelligence - The shamen Jk;)
     
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    #7
    LSI = Latent Semantic Indexing

    http://www.cs.utk.edu/~lsi/

    Basically its Google looking at the keywords on the page.

    You could sit and spend time reading about it... but just don't forget......

    The algo has 100 parts to it Title tags, good, content, quality one way anchor text links are some of the most important parts of the algo and everything else is minor tweaks that can help.

    For some.... its just a matter of chilling with the links....:D
     
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    mobilebay Active Member

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    ty muchly, chilling with the links it is ;)
     
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    I think it may have to do with measuring how many people click links in the SERPS. Sites that get less clicks than expected may go down in the SERPS. But the page in question being old and never changing may have something to do with it too.
     
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    How about other people moving up the rankings? -_-
     
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    To keep your place in the rankings, you need to run to stand still. If you don't do enough to gain links on a daily basis, there will always be people with other websites who are doing a little more than you.
     
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    we are not talking a few ranks we are talking over 200 kws completely disappearing for no reason yet again from the serps meaning germany uk, us even mexico... why? when it did so well for over 10 months?
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Lol that is funny mate. Mind telling me what amount is to much?:p

    Rankings always fluctuate... you either didn't keep up with the ranking or your competitors outwitted you or both. Don't expect to keep a ranking if you just sit on your rump.
     
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  14. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    Nothing funny about it. While gaining links fast because a news site picks you up or you have something nobody has will be good, going and spamming 10 million blog comments within a week may not be so good.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Mate does that really make since?

    I really hate your site so I am going to spam 50,000,000 blog sites register with 500,000 link farms and spam your site over many grey-barred sites. That fixed you and now you as a competitor are none existent.

    Does it make since that google would allow competitors to kill each other like this? Google has made it clear that nothing a competitor every does can hurt you. All inbound links will have no effect on you negatively unless you LINK BACK. I have seen this proven over and over.
     
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  16. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    Ofcourse something a competitor does can effect you, how do you think it is that the whitehouse website shows up first when you type in "failure"? In this case people are pointing links back to the site with the anchor text "failure" but isn't that the same as effecting competition as this could be done to anyone?

    Link spamming can effect you as well especially blog comments. A flag would be raised for sure and if your site dropped in the SERPs or got banned altogether you would just have to go explaining yourself to Google for reinclusion. Ofcourse if your site is aged, and popular with lots of back links from reputable sites it might not effect you much if at all. But if you have a fresh site you're *@#( out of luck if someone doesn't like you... Hang out on some BH forums and you'll hear enough about sites getting banned for link spam.
     
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    No actually they cannot effect your rankings by linking to you with words you are not targeting ...:rolleyes:

    By pointing so many links with the word moron in the anchor text it did indeed push the president to # 1 for the word moron...if all those links were pulled off line then his position would likely fall.

    Please feel free to point one way links to my nanotech site http://www.nanotechnology-info.com with the word nanotechnology..

    Link spam is most often from reciprocal link exchanges or webmasters who make it obvious they bought links to their site...

    Googles only as stupid as you think they are...but dont underestimate them...
     
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    You dont listen sometimes I think when I speak to others....:D

    Its another of those visual things for you again

    [SIZE=-1]Results 1 - 1 of 1 for http://www.mobile-heaven.com

    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Results 1 - 10 of about 224 for www.mobile-heaven.com

    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Results 1 - 10 of about 1,920 for mobile-heaven.com[/SIZE]

    Your search - http://mobile-heaven.com

    Theres another of your problems.

    I dont know what the others are on about b....ut you have canonical URL issues to fix.

    Peace
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    Dude if you don't link out to them it will never hurt you. Believe me I would know if it were any other way.

    And the bush example isn't a good one. Yes it was mean and wasn't necessarily nice but didn't effect the bush/government sites just gave it one more ranking.

    Prove your point is correct and I will give you a $50,000. check.
     
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  20. m0rtal

    m0rtal Well-Known Member

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    In the first example I never said they are effecting your ranking for words you are targetting but they are effecting your rankings in general. If your site sells something and you start showing up for the phrase "internet scams" now that can't be good for business can it? In essence your competitor has effected your ranking for a term and it is hurting your business.

    So you mean getting 10 million automated back links from people's blog comments and guestbooks is most often not link spam, good to know :rolleyes:
     
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