Any plans to show status of submissions?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by chader144, May 16, 2008.

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  1. #1
    As a webmaster who has submitted there site about 8 years ago and no information of rejection or acceptance I wonder... If only I knew if somebody even looked at my suggested url?

    So I would like to ask or pose the question has DMOZ or ODP thought about having a page that would show status of a suggestion?

    (You also might even have a page that shows what is currently in the cue to be edited.)

    I believe doing so would help in several aspects of the majority of problems that are apparent to me.

    1. Communication gap between those who suggest a url and the editors who work on them.

    2. Cut down on spam like submissions. People will be able to see that there request has been looked at and there is no need to keep re-submitting.

    I understand that it takes time to manually edit all of the submissions but I am more then willing to wait. Just as long as I know that someday it will be looked at.
     
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  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #2
    Someday it will be looked at...

    Though, they will likely never do a status check on your submission, as they feel you are not worth it. They would rather have you submit and forget, as there are currently no plans on ever caring what you, or anyone else ever thinks.

    you could try here though: http://www.dmoz-resources.com/zone/
     
    Qryztufre, May 16, 2008 IP
  3. winifred gray

    winifred gray Peon

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    I have to agree with dmoz on not providing a status check, I run a little directory myself and after many years I've found that telling someone that they have been rejected only leads to them wanting to know why and/or just submitting the same site again.

    There simply isn't the time...and it benefits no one.

    Submit and forget isn't good just for dmoz, it's good for the webmaster as well. Spending any more time than it takes to sumbit your site once is a complete waste of time.

    A dmoz listing is just a link, it's not a fantastic link, it's not a harmful link, it's just a link like most others...certainly not something that you would even need to waste the time on "checking its status."
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Just think if you had a business and the yellow pages told you the exact same thing three years after you opened up shop and submitted your phone number for inclusion. After all, that's just a collection of phone numbers set up for the end user.

    Setting up an automated system with the common reasons of rejection wastes no ones time and falls under the same logic as why it's done for editors.

    And it benefits EVERYONE! Letting a webmaster know why their site was rejected can prompt several of them to fix that problem and get a site that is listable. To say that does not help the ODP could lead one to believe that the real reason they do not want certain sites listed is because they are competitors sites :p
     
    Qryztufre, May 17, 2008 IP
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    This is quite true, but it misses the point of ODP, which is not to help webmasters improve their sites. ;)

    If a site has plenty of unique content, and it meets the simple requirements of the ODP, then it is already suitable for listing in the directory. An editor might find it and list it without any assistance, but suggestions are also welcome from non-editors.

    So it is not a matter of a site being "rejected". Either an editor has found it and decided to list it, or not.
    If it meets the above criteria, and has been suggested, then it will be reviewed in time, if it has not been found elsewhere and listed in the meantime. :)
     
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    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Maybe, but then, you are looking at it wrong, and therefore missing the real point.

    It helps to make the ODP the best it can be.
     
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    Ahh well that is a whole other topic. :)
     
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    I'll join this club. I've been submitting a site 1-2 times per year for around 8 years. It's an online store which is kid safe, validates with web standards, has no advertisements, is listed in many old, new and respected directories. It's not like submitting to DMOZ takes alot of time or effort, but it would be nice to know if it isn't worth my hopes for this site.

    I recently contacted the editor through the feedback link (w/ CC Staff) and he emailed me back very quickly saying he would review it later that night. It's been more than a few days and I have not heard back. So I guess I can assume he decided it shouldn't be added again.

    I'll continue waiting. Maybe I'll try submitting again next year. Meh...
     
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  9. Business Services

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    It is easy to know when your site has been checked, a dmoz link will be displayed in your aw stats

    Recently had my site submitted after 2 years of trying, just a matter of being patient
     
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    Of course the visit may be completely unrelated to your site suggestion.
    Volunteer editors spend their time in many ways, including searching the internet for good sites to add to the directory, so a DMOZ referral simply means that an editor has visited your site. Nothing more. :)
     
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    And, because a great majority of sites are misplaced when they are submitted, many of us spend our time checking for that and moving the sites to the correct categories.

    Most resident editors in Regional are located in the lower categories where the real work of listing sites gets done, so it's important to put those sites where they can reach them.
     
    crowbar, May 19, 2008 IP
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    I've managed to live without a DMOZ listing for my new site even though it has a good content. Having good content would definitely give your site a much more better backlink than a DMOZ listing. I've seen referrals from .edu sites and .gov sites and due to that I gained a lot of traffic from actual readers and serp position. I was even surprised that even newspapers grabs your content if it is unique in content and that builds a very good backlink. Even Wiki Answers don't have an answer on my new post. Imagine that. :)

     
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    Well of course "placing sites on the Wanted List", is related to nothing new editors can do, and "slacking" is meaningless in a volunteer organisation.
    Yes, sadly some people do join for the self-interested reasons popotalk added at the end of my list, but fortunately, most people join to build and improve the directory rather than damage it, and those were the reasons I listed. ;)
     
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    Err.. Umm.. So is that the same thing as joining the church as volunteer without actually doing anything just to be viewed as a good Christian ? That's absolutely meaningless and I agree with that. :rolleyes:
    How would you build a house with so much infestation, even the foundation infested as it is, so lets just paint it to look oh-kay for improvement. Right. ;)

    Wanted List is in my sig. Thanks for clarification. :)
     
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