Any ideas on how to tweak low paying ads pages a bit?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by crazyhorse, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. #1
    Wondering you guys have any ideas on how to tweak your webpages in order to get better paying ads. I can imagine that lot's of people got/get low paying ads so the question arises . How can i tweak my pages to get better more relevant ads? I had some little ideas myself although i don't know whether they work:

    - Ad image text relevant tags around your ads
    - place text for or after your ads
    - keyword in the title, description
    - overall keyword density low or high?
    - a keyword rich link to the next page, same as title.
    -relevant text links to other webpages.
    - rich relevant content.
    Any more ideas?

    One last thing Would u get ride of a internal link stucture if it might influence your overall keyword density of the page?
     
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  2. Swordfish

    Swordfish Active Member

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    Try renaming the URL. May help a bit.
     
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  3. crazyhorse

    crazyhorse Peon

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    Renaming the url will probably effect your overall ranking. But i guess that would be worth a try unless you got thousands of webpages . Like I do :eek:
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Could always email advertisers and ask them to raise their bid on adwords :). Wait, google already did that today with the new changes to adwords :p
     
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    I think the last one, rich relevant content, would be a big one.
     
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  7. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    These kind of questions always make me wonder...

    * Why do you even want to get higher paying ads? Aren't you interested in having your visitors going around your site and offer those ads only as a way for you to get some income when they leave? I have a site where ads pay a couple of cents, and I really couldn't care less, I'd rather have my visitors surfing my site than clicking on ads.

    * If you aren't interested in this and would rather have them clicking on ads, then why don't you just focus on getting more traffic? The higher your traffic is, the higher chance you have of them clicking an ad and the higher your total earnings are. And higher traffic also brings in many other revenue generating oportunities

    * Or, just add loads of new content to your site. The bigger it is, the higher chance you have of getting a page well ranked and bringing in visitors
     
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  8. crazyhorse

    crazyhorse Peon

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    These kind of replies always makes me wonder. Why do you even bother to post on this thread? Three unrelated answers.:confused: I'm not asking about your opinion whether i should or should not post this information. I'm asking you to share your ideas on how you tweaked/optimized your webpages a bit more to generate a bit more of money. I got the traffic, more then 10 k a day, i got the content 180k pages indexed in Google. So don't start with me about focussing on content, getting more traffic.

    Don't u think it's up to me whether what i do with my visitors. I guess the reason that people respond like this if they don't know what it is to have a high traffic website and are having a hard time converting the traffic into sales. Since you have been here a while i would at least expect from you to hear some decent advise . Not just for me but for everyone else that will read this information for the first time as a rookie or maybe even as a expert. Im not generating pages only for adsense. My overall aim is to let the visitor gain from visiting my website. Whether he/she will choose to leave my webpage using Google ads or other featuers is up to the visitor. But if it chooses to leave my webpage it would be great if the ads where highly optimized and Yes are paying the most. Oh and yes i do know what is to get 40 dollar clicks, that aint my first goal. My overall question is how can i optimize my webpages to serve just a bit more relevant low/mid/high paying ads? Any ideas Fryman?
     
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  9. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Geez, forgot to take your PMS medication?

    My site also gets high traffic, but I focus on my site, not on my ads, they are just a plus.

    Good luck.
     
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  10. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Placing text around ads specifically to "increase" the type of ads displayed is most likely against the TOS.

    If you want higher paying ads, find higher paying subjects/keywords.
     
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  11. crazyhorse

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    Another usefull tip Thanks:D
     
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  12. wkw

    wkw Well-Known Member

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    Here's a reference to some research regarding ad placement: http://www.acmetech.com/blog/2005/03/04/proof-that-top-placement-is-important/

    Might be of some use to you.

    I agree with some of the other voices in this thread that content matters. If you don't start with a commitment to generating something unique and put a piece of yourself into it, you're just broadcasting static. Good, focused content will usually pull ads which appeal to those who come to peruse your content and greatly increase the odds that your visitors see something they're curious about and want to click. I click an occasional adsense ad. When I do, it's because I think there may be something on the other side I'm interested in.

    The ubiquitous Dr. Ken Evoy of sitesell dot com is terribly proud of his daughter who at something like 14 tender years of age, came home from a family trip and was so energized from the place they had spent a couple weeks on holiday, wanted to share her experiences and photos with the wider world. With Ken's help (and of course, the suite of SiteSell tools), she crafted the site, http://www.anguilla-beaches.com/. In a relatively short time her site had top SERP purely on popularity alone. No tricks, no ad coops, just quality content people enjoyed and linked to. It became so popular that when they were next on the island, she was a minor celebrity, and I guess the local business owners were very eager to buy a little advertising from her, unsolicited.

    The point of that story? Do something you believe in, invest yourself in it, and you'll have a much better chance of finding an audience.
     
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  13. crazyhorse

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    Thanks wkw seen that study before and surely will try to implement it to see what kind of effect it has on my overall CTR. I have tried having ads on the left of the page and it seems that the overall ctr did increase. I havn't tried using this with image ads above each ad on the left like a skyscraper but im certainly going to give it a try.



    To whom ever it may concern thanks for the negative rep. L%$$#oser.
     
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  14. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.. you want to know how to get ads that 'pay more per click' correct?

    If so, it doesn't matter what you do to your page. You could have little pink elephants flying around on the screen. If your subject/keywords aren't highly competitive they aren't going to pay much. Nobody is going to bid $10/click on the word "pink elephant" no matter how cool your page is or how great the way you put it on your page is.

    If you're simply talking about "increasing" your earnings any way possible, then you obviously just need a higher CTR, which is done by moving the ads around, changing colors, changing formats, etc until you are satisfied you've got as good as it gets. Then you get more traffic, more traffic, more traffic.
     
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