Any handcoders here?

I use DW when trying to build a concept or when I'm not sure how I want something to look.

It's actually a great program!

 

You guys are totally incredible! This is so awesome that some of you can look at the code like an operator looking at the Matrix feed!

I use the online html editor for php, but i can't live without DW for the rest...

 

mg, vi and emacs for me.

 

I don't know any of those.

 

vi? Yikes! I could never really get the hang of that.

 

I hand code. I've been switching away from the buggy PHP Coder IDE and have been trying Maguma Studio, Zend Studio and another one. Will be buying Zend soon. I normally close all little windows and have one big page with code open to work with.

 

I hand code...

So much more control over CSS styled layouts...

I use TextPad Currently but am open to exploring other options... (Moving over to linux soon so things may have to change)...

 

Hand code, I use an SSH connection to my linux server and use the vim text editor to type stuff in. I sometimes make syntax mistakes that I might not make if they were all colored by an IDE, but its sooo easy to make little changes!

 

I use Interdev for all of my ASP coding just becuase it color codes things nicely and it gives me my drop downs when I'm coding. I don't use the built in code creators because it creates such code bloat and code crap. It's just better than textpad for asp. For everything else, I use notepad.

 

I can't even leave home without DW and Fireworks MX. ALMOST renders coders obsolete. You really have to use both of them to understand how it can save time/money. Here are a few examples...

1) Fireworks- Batch processing, amazing photo effects, eye candy plugin, opens psd's
2) Dreamweaver- Auto Create Photo Album (requires Fireworks), find and replace, cleanup html, source formatting, create/ record actions.

+LOTS MORE

I really don't know how you coders do it. You build 1 site I build 10. My personal feeling is Macromedia rules...No offence intended to the hardcore coders.

 

Trust me, neither of those will be replacing any hand coders.

 

Generall use Notepad++ for PHP writing, DW for templates and overall site design and the odd bit of VS when .NET is needed.

Still have fond memories of Homesite.

 

That must be why I outsource it . My skills are REALLY limited so I have the utmost respect for all of you. I just wish you weren't so damn expensive .

 

Nope. vi all the way. I sometimes use emacs when I am feeling frisky but most of my work is done in vi ... and shows it

Though, I will have to admit that my newer work where I use CSS for tables instead of html tables is starting to look pretty slick. Unfortunately it still isn't quite as good as the work the pros can produce.

 

Everything is negotiable! But ya gotta appreciate, what you guys think is a quick job, may take hours. It would be nice to make about 50 and hour, but be fair and give us a means to an end and you can get alot of work by offering a fair flat fee with detailed instructions.

 

I guess what I'm not sure about is debugging. Say I contract a coding project to you that may include flash, PHP sql. You code it and we beta test it...who pays for debugging? Is there an industry standard for this? Why should I have to pay for your coding errors

This is a general statement NOT applicable to you but very applicable to some projects I outsource

 

You shouldn't, that's the point of "a means to an end". You describe the functionality, agree on a price and it should include being debugged.

If you look around for my released code, you will see no bug reports and only requests for functionality additions. Some of us can get it right the first time.

There are a few I've done work for as well around the communities that can speak for my abilty to follow through and get the job right. Those same people may agree I'm a pain in the ass too, but us perfectionists are like that.

 

HMM, truthfully I have been wrapped up in this online design module way too long now. Started Nov 2004, still at it with a company oversees. The work is good, just S L O W.

I gave 50% deposit then they asked for balance before debugging was finished. I agreed (silly). Now we have been hung up on a stupid browser issue for 7 weeks now . I am soo out of patience with this project.

 

Lot's of folks take the time to look at little problems and solve them if posted.

EDIT: got the PM.

 

I hand code my tables and css...it isn't very pretty, but it does what I want.

Other than that I use CMS's or nVu.