Any danger in software for link building?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by coakleylincoln, Dec 2, 2012.

  1. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #41
    I wouldn't completely avoid them, but most of the time they are a waste of time. Either they don't get approved or they are nofollow.
     
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  2. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    #42
    Ok guys!!! Finally, the complain comes to an end. That was interesting about your speech with all others in this forum. You are the one man army here. And i think that you know way of presentation and proceedings with link building software. Right? Could you please tell me how do i take that software? Because i want to wrest a checking for my site with s/w. After few days, I'm gonna notify about what will be the best way for link building within my upcoming experience. Is it worthy?
     
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  3. indyonline

    indyonline Prominent Member

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    #43
    Well, you have every bodies opinion, you will have to decide what you want to do. I don't recomend using it but a few do so it's up to you. Build 2 sites and try both and see for yourself. or take the advice of the majority.
    BTW, I don't think I'm a one man army, perfect or the best at SEO. I'm just offering my opinion, debating with others and having some fun.
    Good luck in your ventures.
    Rob

    To the other guys, no hard feelings...
     
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  4. wtg

    wtg Well-Known Member

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    #44
    NO hard feelings here either.. It was just a debate and we had fun . Actually after a long time had such fun..

    As far as using software is concerned.. No don't use it if you are just beginning or its your important and only site..

    I do use softwares but for the sites which even if they are banned or something of that sort, i dont care .will build another. like that. For a serious site even I won't recommend. If you wanna play with things, go for it.


    the debate was on automated seo and manual seo, not whether you should use software for your site or not.
     
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  5. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    I don't have choice and also sufficient money for taking one more site. No problem guys I'll resume my work as usual... Thanks
     
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  6. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #46
    Indyonline is entirely accurate folks. Using automated anything to generate backlinks is only employed by hacks, idiots or folks who are marketing bullshit in the first place.

    Far be it from me to convince people otherwise though, it keeps me in properly paid work.

    Have you folks not heard of relevant, merit based links? Doesn't any one ever get a job for a site that actually matters anymore? Understand that you have to develop strategic relationships?, Are able to hold a conversation?

    Shit, when is the last time one of you automated nitwits bothered to ping a site owner, address him by his name if possible and offer up a nice guest post? You can do with 5 of those links what you kids do with 5000 automated links.

    99.9% of digital point doesn't even know what SEO actually means.

    Long story short, if you are doing things automated, you are missing the entire point of backlinks in the first place.

    Nigel
     
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  7. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    #47
    So what's your lucid point here Mr. Nigel lew?
     
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  8. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #48
    Does something escape you? While accurate I didn't spell it out of for folks I thought it was pretty straight forward.

    We can rewind several years if that is helpful... http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1835616

    and easy on the Mr. lol..

    happy to answer questions. It's just that I have done it ad nauseum in the first place. Folks always want a quick and easy way to greatness and or page one in this case. Its not doable.

    I have said this more times than I can recount but..... It is Google's job to return the most relevant result for x query. If you want to rank well you have to make the site actually relevant given the demographic. This is not done by blindly(auto in this case) throwing links at the problem. That was not the answer 7 years ago and it certainly isn't now.

    As a provider, the methodology I refer to is what separates folks that make 50 dollars a month versus about 50 dollars an hour as well.

    And, back to the ops question. Yes, using automated tools to do just about anything is a terrible idea in the first place before I even get to utterly useless.

    Using SEO NUKE et. al is about as helpful as linkwheels and anything else currently offered in the services section here for SEO. Same with Fivver or whatever that site is called.

    I am sure I seem to fly off the handle about this sometimes but I 1. have a problem with folks clogging the tubes with bullshit web 2.0 properties and 2. It actually causes folks to stop and think about what they are doing, sometimes.



    Nigel
     
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  9. initzero

    initzero Active Member

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    #49
    thanks mate this info... so in conclusion blog commenting is still good so long that they are in dofollow and providing constructive comment.
     
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  10. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #50

    There is nothing wrong with a no follow link... In fact, having a range of no follow links in your backlink profile is awesome because it appears more natural.

    I don't want to speak for indy but I suspect that he is referring to engaging in a conversation. If you comment on blogs with SEO in mind you have already wasted your time.

    Nigel
     
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  11. onewaylinkbuilder

    onewaylinkbuilder Active Member

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    #51
    Google loves slow and steady link building with manual process don't use any software for creating backlinks it harms your site and try to do content based link building only.
     
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  12. BarbaraMibram

    BarbaraMibram Peon

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    #52
    Do it manually. Link building from Software is not Quantity link. If you do it manually, you get more advantage.
     
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  13. johnaustin9

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    #53
    This type of linkbuilding you are not going to achieve ranking risk of penalization is higher.
     
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  14. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    #54
    @Nigel Lew
    Hi buddy... How did you say no follow links are natural?
    So what about the do follow links? My thought is that do follow links are having a supreme power in seo...
    But someone in this post said as natural links means it'll be given by common people with their inclination.
    Is that right? or He was wrong?
     
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  15. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    #55
    Hi, my point would be that if your backlink profile consists of do follow links only then its fairly obvious they are not entirely natural. Having some no follow links is a good thing.

    Nigel
     
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  16. Linktub

    Linktub Well-Known Member

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    #56
    I keep reading about people getting crushed on the latest penguin update that used sick submitter / hoth / seonuke - I would think google sees standard variations, whether you are an expert or not. plus, if you were google, why wouldn't you just by all the different automated software tools and run tests all day long?
     
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  17. coakleylincoln

    coakleylincoln Greenhorn

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    #57
    Hai i have caught your point that no follow links are not bad at all. They have their own speciality. But how did you say do follow links are having some mysterious thing we can build do follow links through our affiliate companies or toiling to create that. Here you are with this?
     
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  18. VeInteractive

    VeInteractive Peon

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    #58
    It's better if you do this manually, all type of link automation tools is part of black hat SEO practices. Try searching for directories that are relevant to our industry and submitting your links to them instead of opting for an automated service.
     
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  19. Nigel Lew

    Nigel Lew Notable Member

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    Hi, sorry... I don't quite follow the question.

    N.
     
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  20. seo_buzz

    seo_buzz Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Software generated backlinks will only impact negatively on your website. You will notice Google is taking the backlink issue more seriously than before (backlink was always a serious ranking issue btw!), after they introduced Penguin update, which triggered the issue of negative SEO. And to disallow negative SEO to a certain point they required to bring the Disavow tool. That only indicate bad links affects your ranking negatively. So stay away from software generated links.
     
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