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gworld said:

Will

Are you supporting the suicide bombers, it seems to me that they are much more willing to die for their cause.

May be you just post these quotes without thinking about what it means.
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More words of wisdom from the great gworld.

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ut even more bizarre is when it goes even further, and now murdering people is OK, because a murder is doing it and he's a murderer and that's just what he does so how could it be wrong -- but you are a bad person because you jaywalk.
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I don't think anyone here has said that, or anything to that effect,

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zman said:

"War is an ugly thing with undesirable consequences!"

hmmm. trying to discredit truth before it hits? Is that a new tactic?
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I thought it was the "inaction as the best course of action has undesirable consequences!" That's how it was in the 90s at least.

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zman said:

well not like you but normal Americans that until this war were working in shoe stores, enjoying ice cream, watching footbal with a six pack, etc.
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Considering the recruiting requirements.. a good part of them were most likely just dropped out of high school, getting high all the time or fresh out of jail

You're right.. not just like me. Most people with college educations and are successful with careers don't sign up for the military ...

Got any statistics on how many of the people doing the ground fighting have a college degree? How about a high school degree? I wonder how many of them were making over $20,000 a year......

zman said:

My sister is person who gave up everything for this country and went and joined the AF.

Are you lumping people like her into this "big bad American killing machine"?
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Not everyone is bad. But there are bad ones, too many.. I never said our whole military was full of bad people... only that we have troops over there doing horrible things without punishment.

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gworld said:

Will

Are you supporting the suicide bombers...
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I don't think Will is the one who displays concern for suicide bombers and terrorists' rights. We do have some to fill that role though, right?

What do you think gworld? Do you think HE does? What's your "educated" guess?

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A high school Diploma is required to join the US military.

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This just dropped into my inbox from one of my columnists.

MUSLIM TIMELINE FOR WORLD RULE

OBSESSION is one of the most informative web sites regarding the deceitful ploys of Islam. Visit it at http://www.honestreporting.com/obsession/whatwecando.htm

On that site, there is provided a time line of Islamic killings and woundings since 1968 through June 2004. Below is an abbreviation of that time line. Read it and be informed.

In June 1968, Sirhan Sirhan killed presidential candidate Robert Kennedy. Sirhan was a Jordanian Arab-Palestinian. In that same month, Islamic killers international attacked US Embassy attache Army Major Robert P. Perry at home in Amman, Jordan.

In July 1968, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) hijacked Israeli El Al Airplanes.

In 1970, Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) killers attacked bus in West Bank, killing Barbara Ertle of Michigan and wounding two others from the US.

In March 1970, PFLP lodged rockets at US Embassy, Beirut, as well as the American Insurance Company, Bank of America and John F. Kennedy library.

In September 1970, PFLP murderers took hold of four airliners, three of which were blown up.

In March 1972, PFLP engaged the Japanese Red Army to machine-gun and grenade attack IsraelÂ’s main airport. Twenty-six were slain, 78 wounded, many from the US.

In September 1972, Arab killers attacked Olympic Village, Munich, Germany, kidnapping nine Israelis and slaying two others. .A grenade slaughtered athletes while others were trying to rescue them. A German policeman is slain. Jews killed totaled eleven.

In 1973, Back September Muslim killers slew US ambassador, Cleo A. Noel, and charge dÂ’affaires and a Belgian diplomat.

In June 1976, Arab killers hijacked an Air France flight from Tel Aviv.

In August 1976, PFLP attacked IsraelÂ’s main airline, El Al. Four were slain, 20 injured.

In March 1977, Muslim murderers took 134 hostages near the White House. One is slain, 12 wounded, in the seizing of the Islamic Center, the international headquarters of BÂ’nai Brith and WashingtonÂ’s City Hall.

In February 1979, the US ambassador to Afghanistan is slain by Afghan militia.

In November 1979, Muslims take over US Embassy in Tehran, Iran; 66 diplomats are held hostage. Also, in that month the US Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, is taken by Muslim murderers. The building is set ablaze, killing four.

In June 1981, Muslim killers slay Coptics in their burnt out homes in Egypt. Eighty-one Coptics died with more than a hundred gravely wounded. Eighty houses were destroyed and looted.

In the same month, Anwar Sadat, Egyptian President, was slain by members of the Takfir Wal-Hajira sect. Eight others were murdered at SadatÂ’s reviewing stand.

In January 1982, Lebanese killers murder American military attache Lt. Col. Charles R. Ray as he leaves his apartment.

In August 1982, PLO killers slay two from the US who were eating out at a Jewish restaurant in Paris.

In the same month, Lebanese murderers slew an American embassy employee by releasing a bomb under his car.

In September 1982, Muslim killers slew Lebanese Prime Minister Bashir Gemayel via a car bomb in Beirut.

In March 1983, five Marines are slain by Islamic Jihad and Al-Amal militia.

In April 1983, an Islamic suicide car-bomber kills 63 at the US Embassy in Beirut. Inured: 120. Islamic Jihad claimed planners of the attack.

In October 1983, 241 US Marines were slain by Islamic Jihad. They were killed in their Beirut barracks. Also, 50 UN peacekeepers were slain at the French military barracks.

In December 1983, Five were killed, 86, wounded, in Kuwait City, when Islamic killers set off car bombs in front of the US and French embassies.

In January 1984, American University of Beirut Prescient Malcolm Kerr was slain by Islamic Jihad.

In April 1984, eighteen American service personnel were slain by Islamic killers in Torrejon, Spain.

In September 1984, Islamic Jihad damaged the US Embassy in Lebanon, killing two Americans, twenty Americans wounded.

In April 1985, American service personnel were slain by Muslims in Madrid, Spain.

In June 1985, Lebanese Shiite murderers threatened Captain John Testrake in his cockpit of hijacked TWA Flight 847. Muslims kill US Navy diver Robert Stethem, tossing his body around carelessly.

In August 1985, a US soldier is slain by Muslims in Frankfurt.

In October 1985, PLO killers hijack Italian cruise liner. A 69-year-old man is shot in his wheelchair, then thrown overboard in his wheelchair.

In November 1985, EgyptAir Flight 648 is hijacked by Muslim killers. Fifty-eight were slain or burnt alive.

In December 1985, Muslim slayers killed 20 at US and Israeli check-in desks in Rome and Vienna international airports.

In that same month, Abu NidalÂ’s group seized El Al offices in Rome. Thirteen were slain, five being from the US, 74 wounded.

In Mary 1986, TWA Flight 840 was shot through, leaving a hole in its side. A bomb explosion was set loose by Arab Revolutionary Cells. Also, four from the US were slain when a bomb exploded on a TWA jet going from Rome to Athens. The ARC claimed responsibility.

In April 1986 Americans were bombed in a West Berlin restaurant.

In September 1986, Muslim killers hijacked Pan Am 747, leaving 20 slain.

In October 1986, an American was murdered by a grenade leveled by Fatah at the Western Wall, Jerusalem.

In February 1989, bookstores in Berkeley, CA were bombed by Muslims in protest of Salman RushdieÂ’s "The Satanic Verses."

In March 1989, US Navy Captain Will C. RogersÂ’ wife is attacked by a car bomb.

In October 1991, Ankara, Turkey, a US soldier is slain and his wife wounded by Turkish Islamic Jihad.

In the same month, a US Air Force sergeant is slain via car bombing with Turkish Islamic Jihad claiming responsibility.

In November 1991, American University, Beirut, administration building is bombed, killing one and wounding over 12 more.

In March 1992, Muslims attack and kill an Archpriest, a Monk, and three laypersons at the St. MaryÂ’s Monastery, El-Mouharak, Asyut.

In that same month, Hizbullah said it blasted the Israli Embassy in Buenos Aires, Argenina, killing 29, wounding 242.

In October 1992, Islamics attack, destroy and loot homes in El-Qousya, Asyut.

In January 1993, a Palestinian shoots two CIA employees, wounding three others near CIA headquarters, Langley, VA.

In that same month, Ramzi Yousef was judged as heading up the 1993 World Trade Center bombing as well as the 1994 explosion on Philippine Airlines Flight 434.

In February 1993, six were killed by Islamic murderers. They set loose explosives in the World trade Center.

In the same month, a Cairo cafÃ© attack slew three via bomb.

In April 1993, former US President George Bush was under assassination attack while in Kuwait.

In June 1993, Islamics ambush UN peacekeeping personnel, killing 23.

In August 1993, Islamics kill 4 from US in Somalia.

In September 1993, Muslim murderers shot down US UH-60 blackhawk over Mogadishu. ServicemenÂ’s bodies were strewn in the streets. In October, American service personnelÂ’s bodies were dragged through the avenues of Mogadishu.

In July 1994, a bomb explosion set by Islamics in Buenos Aires, laid low Jewish organization headquarters, killing over 85, wounding over 200.

In December 1994, an Islamic bomb on Philippine Airlines Flight 434 killed Haruki Ikegami, Japanese businessman.

In that same month, Armed Islamic Group took hold of Air France Flight to Algeria.

In March 1995, Islamics opened fire on US Consulate van in Karachi, slaying two US diplomats and wounding a third.

In September 1995, a grenade was thrown through the US Embassy window, Moscow.

In November 1995, a car bomb at Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, US military location slew seven, wounding 60. Islamist Movement for Change and Fighting Advocates of God took responsibility.

In that same month, a suicide bomber killed 16 at the Egyptian Embassy, Islamabad, Pakistan.

In February 1996, Muslims in Egypt took a Coptic village, leveling homes, animal, crops and fields.

In June 1996, a fuel truck exploded near Dharan, Saudi Arabia with 19 Americans slain by Husbollah.

In August 1996, French Archbishop of OranÂ’s home was bombed, slaying him and his chauffeur. The Algerian Armed Islamic Group did it.

In December 1996, a Paris subway train was exploded, killing four, wounding 86.

In February 1997, a dozen Coptic Christians are killed while worship in their Abu Quorcas church.
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In the same month, an Islamic teacher fired at tourists at the Empire State Building New York, NY. A Danish national was killed, visitors were wounded.

In November 1997, Islamics slew four American auditors for Union Texas Petroleum Company and their Pakistani driver in Karachi. The Islamic Inqilabi Council and the Aimal Secret Committee said they did it.

In the same month, 58 were slain by murderers at the HatshepsutÂ’s Temple, Egypt.

In August 1998, bombs bases the US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tenzania. Blasts slew 247 in Nairobi and 10 in Dar es Salaam, more then 5000 wounded.

In November 1999, rockets fired at US Information Services cultural center and UN offices in Islamabad, Pakistan, wounded Pakistani guard.

In January 2000, Coptic ChristiansÂ’ funeral in El-Kosheh, Egypt, due to Muslim murderersÂ’ attack.

In October 2000, USS ColeÂ’s port side view shows damage via Muslim attack via bomb explosion during refueling in Aden, Yemen. Seventeen sailors were slain, 30 wounded. Bin Laden: the ship sailed "to its doom. . .(along a course of ) "false arrogance, self-conceit, and strength."

In December 2000, Muslim on his way to bomb Los Angeles Airport is arrested at US / Canadian border. He has over 100 pounds of explosives in his vehicle. Algerian Ahmed Ressam informs authorities that he was schooled in a camp in Afghanistan, the latter overseen by fin Laden.

On September 11, 2001, Islamic killers international highjack planes, then crash into the World Trade Center, New York, killing more than 5000. Soon thereafter another hijacked plane smashes into the Pentagon. Sixty-four passengers and crew as well as 125 military and civilian personnel were slain with 80 wounded. Another hijacked plane with 44 onboard crashed into Shanksville PA field. All were slain by Arab Islamic zealots.

In October 2001, Muslim murderers slay worshipers in Tomata Indonesian church.

In the same month, Muslim killers shoot into church, slaying 18, in Bahawalpur, Model Town, Pakistan.

In December 2001, Muslim murderers slay Christian community, killing five, in Vwang, Nigeria.

In January 2002, Daniel Pearl, Wall Street Journal reporter, was kidnapped by Muslim murderers in Karachi. He was later slain.

In February 2002, worshipers in a Coptic Church in Egypt were set afire.

In that same month, three Christians were murdered by Islamics in Ilorin, Nigeria.

In that same month in Amman, Jordan, a vehicle was blown apart via car bomb, slaying an Egyptian and Iraqi laborer. The car was owned by the wife of the head of the Jordanian Anti-Terrorism Unit.

In March 2002 in Islamabad Pakistan, five are slain via grenade in a church. Forty-seven are wounded.

In April 2002 in Tunisia, Islamic suicide bombers kills 26 in historic synagogue. Islamic Army for the Liberation of the Holy Sites says they did it.

In the same month, Muslim killers kill twelve worshipers in a Christian village, leaving six wounded.

In May 2002 in Pakistan, a bus exploded, murdering 12 and wounding 19. Al-Qaida was suspected.

In the same month in Kapiisk, Russia, Muslim murderers set loose a bomb in the bushes that slew 42, wounding 150 others. Islamic al-Qaida suspected.

In May 2002, car bombs explode near US Consulate and Marriott Hotel in Karachi, Pakistan with eleven dead and 51 wounded. Al-Qaida suspected.

In June 2002, Islamic killers fired into a Neelum Valley, Pakistani bus, forcing it over a cliff, killing 10 persons, injuring 12 others.

In July 2002, grenades thrown into tourists in Mansebra.

In August 2002, six missionaries taken, two beheaded, in the Philippines. In Jhika Gali, Murree, Pakistan, at a Christian missionary school six are slain and four wounded in Islamic murdering attack against believers.

In August 2002, Kabul Afghanistan witnesses bomb explosion outside UN guesthouse, two wounded. Muslim killers suspected.

In September 2002 in Ahmedabad India, Muslims attack and slay Hindu monks and dozens of worshipers in a temple. Lashkar-e-Toiba takes responsibility.

In October 2002 in Dhabbah, Yemen, explosives kill one and wound four on French oil tanker Limburg.

In October 2002 in Kuwait, Muslims kill one US Marine and wound another as the latter are conducting a non-live-fire exercise.

In the same month in Bali, 187 tourists are slain by Muslim murderers at San Club on Legian Street. Al-Qaida told press they did it.

In November 2002 in Mombaasa Kenya, 15 killed by suicide bomber, 40 wounded. Al-Ittihad suspected.

In the same month in Mombasa Kenya, two SA-7 Strela antiaircraft missiles were launched but missed downing a Arkia Boeing 757. Al-Qaida, the Government of Universal Palestine in Exile, and the Army of Palestine claimed they did it.

In December 2002 in Makassar Indonesia, McDonaldÂ’s restaurant is exploded via bomb, 3 killed, 11 wounded. Laskar Jundullah did it.

In December 2002, three worshipers are slain and fourteen wounded in church in Daska Pakistan. Muslims are suspected.

In February 2003, Muslims kill fourteen and wound 8 worshipers in Christian village in Philippines.

In March 2003 in Mindanao, Philippines, a bus is attacked by Moro Islamic Liberation Front, killing nine and injuring four.

In April 2003 in Davao Philippines, a bomb kills 15 and wounds 55. Jemaah Islamiyah is responsible.

In May 2003, suicide bombers storm a residential complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, leaving 35 dead, wounding 200. Al-Qaeda suspected.

In May 2003, bomb attacks in Casablanca fly into restaurant, hotel, Jewish cemetery, Jewish Community Center and Belgian Consulate, leaving 33 dead and 101 wounded. Salfiya Jihadiya suspected.

In July 2003, a Catholic priest in Ranala Kot, Pakistan, was shot and slain in his home. Muslim "fundamentalists" are said to have done it.

In August 2003, Jakarta, Indonesia, Marriott hotel is bombed, killing 10, wounding 150. Jemaah Islamiyah suspected.

In the same month, a truck exploded in Baghdad, Iraq, killing 23, wounding 100.

In September 2003, a car bomb exploded near UN headquarters, killing a guard and wounding 18 in Baghdad, Iraq.

In October 2003, a car bomb exploded at Baghdad Hotel housing US and Iraqi officials, leaving 38 dead and 45 wounded.

In November 2003, a rocket was set loose in Kabul, Afghanistan. Taliban and al-Qaida suspected.

In December 2003, Kerbala government and foreign troopsÂ’ buildings were attacked by Muslim suicide squads, killing 19, wounding 120.

In the same month, in Baghdad, Iraq, car bombs exploded outside Nabil Restaurant, eight killed, 35 wounded.

In January 2004 in Marathiwat, Thailand, Islamic killers stormed an armory, setting it on fire as well as burning 18 schools, leaving four dead and an unknown number wounded.

In the same month, suicide car bombs strike US-led coalitionÂ’s offices in Baghdad, Iraq, killing 31.

In February 2004, Islamic killers blow up an automobile packed with explosives in a crowd of Iraqis lined up outside an army recruiting building in Baghdad.

In the same month, Muslim murderers slay 49 farming community laborers in Nigeria. They had taken refuge in a church.

In the same month in Manveles, Philippines, Abu SayyafÂ’s group bombed a ferry, killing 200.

In March 2004, Muslim attackers killed 185 Iraqis in Baghdad and Karbala, Iraq, as they attended shrines.

In the same month, Muslim bombs attacked a commuter train complex in Madrid, Spain, killing 191, wounding 1,800. It was the deadliest attack since Lockerbie bombing in 1988 in Europe.

In the same month, nine from US were slain by Islamics via bomb explosion near Fallujah.

In April 2004, five suicide bombs exploded near police headquarters and academy with 74 slain and l160 wounded.

In the same month, Islamic killers via suicide car bomb slew 5 and wounded 150 in Riyadh.

In the same month, 24 were slain via roadside bomb hitting bus in Baghdad, Iraq.

In May 2004 in Saudi Arabia, Muslims slew six in attack on Western oil company offices in Red Sea city of Yanbu. The slain were then dragged through the streets.

In the same month in Fallujah, Iraq, four were slain via grenade. Mobs dragged the corpses through the streets.

In the same month, Islamics show video of beheading a man who was identified as Nick Berg from Philadelphia.

In the same month, 11 Christians were burnt alive by Islamics in two churches in Nigeria.

In the same month, President of Iraqi Governing Council Izzadine Saleem is slain by Islamic murderers.

In the same month, two are slain by a bomb at a shrine. Fifty others were wounded.

In the same month, in Ambon, Indonesia, bombs kill one and injure 13 in a Christian neighborhood. Another bomb goes off near a church.

In the same month in Barentu Nrritrea, seven are slain and 80 wounded by bomb blast.

In the same month in Pattani Thailand, Islamics kidnap Buddhist civilian, then behead him.

In the same month in Turbat Pakistan, Islamics kill a 14-year-old boy and dozens are injured in a rocket attack against the Minister of Education.

In June 2004, bombs explode close to US base in Beiji, slaying 11 and wounding 22.

In the same month in Rihadh, Frank Gardner, BBCÂ’s security correspondent, was critically injured and his cameraman Simon Cumbers was slain.

In the same month, car bombs exploded near American base in Taji, killing nine, wounding 30.

In the same month, car bomb explodes, killing US solider and five Iraqis with 15 others wounded.
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In the same month, Muslims down Robert Jacob, American working for vinnell Corp, Riyadh.

In the same month, suicide car bomb kills 12 in Baghdad, Iraq.

In the same month, car bombs explode in Baghdad, slaying 13. Crowd dances in the streets, showing "Down with the USA!"

In the same month, artillery shells slay 35, wound 138 in Baghdad, Iraq.

In the same month, US hostage Paul Marshal Johnson, American engineer for Lockheed Martin, is beheaded by Al-Qaeda.

In the same month in Zainapora India, Lashkar-e-Toiba murders kidnap two, later slitting their throats.

In July 2004 in Jakarta Indonesia, a priest was slain and four wounded when gunmen attacked their church. It was near the site where over 2000 Christians have been slain by Muslims.

Source: Obsession. Vist: http://www.honestreporting.com/obsession/timeline.htm
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Now tell me again gworld, Rob, Yo-Yo and ferret. Why should we be nice to these killers?

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A high school Diploma is required to join the US military.
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Sorry but I believe this is untrue, at least an actual high school diploma is not required.

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yo-yo said:

Got any statistics on how many of the people doing the ground fighting have a college degree? How about a high school degree? I wonder how many of them were making over $20,000 a year......
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Why pretend to care? Do you think *they* want *you* to care about them? I did serve, and the last thing in the world *I* (and most of those that served) would ever want is someone like you pretending you actually care. Which is exactly why I and zman, and I'm sure others, don't let ungrateful twirps go around stomping on their good names or their service to our country.

Not everyone is bad. But there are bad ones, too many.. I never said our whole military was full of bad people... only that we have troops over there doing horrible things without punishment.
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So the trials in the last year that sentenced those convicted of torture were not punishment? You want to cry for "innocent until proven guilty," but you're willing to take one statement by someone from the Army that had self-doubt within it as fact? Whose the first to run crying "but, but, but torture?" as if it's wide spread and part of the every day life being in the military. Yea, we all see *those* kind, don't we?

zman, pass me one of those new hypocrite bars. The ones with extra nuts

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zman said:

Im not sure what world you live in, but the one I live in consist of a military made up of people just like you and... well not like you but normal Americans that until this war were working in shoe stores, enjoying ice cream, watching footbal with a six pack, etc.
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I have no problem with normal Americans but what happens if the soldiers are people like you, Will or Gtech?

How many murders and torture cases will happen before someone notices and stops it?

This is the reason the military code of conduct exists and should be enforced on all military personals but when the politicians that have no idea on how to fight a war, take over and decide that it is OK to torture people against all military rules then the professionals soldiers can not do their job and it will be mess like the present situation.

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Henny said:

A high school Diploma is required to join the US military.
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lol, and it is our fault that many do not have one right?

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Henny said:

A high school Diploma is required to join the US military.
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TArmy reserves the right to waive certain disqualifications and allow enlistment if deemed in the best interest of the individual and the service. If you will only need a waiver for the GED, it is highly likely that you will be accepted.
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http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/pdfs/enlistment_standards.pdf

Requirements Section 3:

3. Education

a. Possession of a high school diploma is desirable,
although not mandatory, for enlistment in any component of the
Military Services. Section 520 of reference (a) states, "A person
who is not a high school graduate may not be accepted for
enlistment in the armed forces unless the score of that person on
the Armed Forces Qualification Test is at or above the thirtyfirst
percentile; however, a person may not be denied enlistment
in the Armed Forces solely because of his not having a high school
diploma if his enlistment is needed to meet established strength
requirements." Alternative credential holders (i.e., General
Education Development Certificates and certificates of attendance
and completion) and nongraduates may be assigned lower enlistment
priority based on their first-term attrition rates.

b. Educational requirements for appointment as a
commissioned or warrant officer are determined by each Military
Service. Generally, a bachelors degree is a required prerequisite
for a commission or appointment. In addition, special occupations
(e.g., physician, chaplain) may require additional vocational
2-2
credentials, which are determined by the Secretary of the Military
Department concerned.

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I have no problem with normal Americans but what happens if the soldiers are people like you, Will or Gtech?
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Well gworld, it wasnt people like you that faught for our current freedom.

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GTech said:

Why pretend to care? Do you think *they* want *you* to care about them?
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Afraid of what those statistics might show?

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zman said:

Well gworld, it wasnt people like you that faught for our current freedom.
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Where did you fight?

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Thanks for the info Yo-Yo. I wonder when they changed that?

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There are also special programs that allow for exceptions to the military such as the following which I believe is different from what Yo Yo posted.

As with the other services, one must have a high school diploma, or a GED to enlist in the United States Army. Even so, the Army only allows about 15 percent of their total enlistments each year to have a GED (See Military ASVAB/Education Minimum Levels).

However, the Army has a special enlistment program, specifically designed for disadvantaged youths who have neither a high school diploma, nor a GED. It's called the Army GED Plus Enlistment Program.

The GED Plus Program enables applicants who currently do not possess a high school diploma or high school equivalency certificate to be sponsored by the Army to obtain a GED for enlistment purposes. This program is available only in certain areas (mostly inter-city areas where most disadvantaged youths live) and for limited numbers. In order to qualify, you must:

â€¢ Be 18 years old and withdrawn from high school for at least one year
â€¢ Not be able to return to high school to fulfill your high school diploma requirement
â€¢ Must be in good moral standing (ie, requires no moral waivers).
â€¢ Score 50 or higher on the Armed Forces Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) test
â€¢ Score 46 or higher on the Assessment of Individual Motivation (AIM) test
â€¢ Possess a letter of enrollment into a GED program with a start and completion date
â€¢ Not require a Drug and Alcohol waiver
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Henny said:

Thanks for the info Yo-Yo. I wonder when they changed that?
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I'm not sure but this may have something to do with it:

In February the Army missed its monthly recruiting goal by 27 percent. That was the first time it had fallen short for any month since May 2000, and it underscored the difficulty the Army faces in signing up young men and women during time of war.
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http://www.e-skojec.com/archives/000481.html

Apparently educated people don't voluntarily join the military so they have to lower the bar even more to get anyone over there.

Then you wonder why we have so much abuse of power and violations against basic human rights like torturing and killing innocent people.

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