Your reverse psychology isn't going to work on me, man! Really though, I know you'd rather run around HATING half of the American population! That's healthy!
Yes. Every day, another thousand beautiful little brown babies are born who will be able to live in peace and prosperity due to the sacrifices made by the brave men and women of the United States Armed Forces. They will be able to live in peace and prosperity because some hard-working Marine is in the sand killing those who seek to oppress them.
How can you justify torturing 95 completely innocent civialians to find the 5 guilty guys? If you had 100 kids and 5 of them killed someone, would torture all 100 of them trying to find out who was guilty? There's a reason we have "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY BEYOND RESAONABLE DOUBT" in our laws.... I guess the same standards shouldn't be applied to people we declared war on, invaded and occupied...
It is sad indeed. I often question the seriousness myself. It's hard to imagine that some people's self-esteem is so low, that they must reach far and wide with moral equivalence that makes no sense, in order to self-loathe and make sure the world knows that "they" don't see the enemy as bad, but it is "those" (not them, because they would never fight for anything) that go after terrorists are bad. It is rock solid proof that buying stock in pharmaceutical companies at an early age will allow you to retire young. I once again, applaud your exceptional way with words!
Whose justifying it? You've already assumed it's true? I thought the reason we had those kind of rules were so liberals could make sure terrorists were not arrested and convicted until after the bomb went off? At least now I know why liberals never sign up to serve their country. "Sarge, look, over there in the bush. It looks like an enemy soldier. What should we do?" "Our mission is to take out the enemy, we must kill them." "But Sarge, what if it's not really an enemy soldier?" "Then he shouldn't be in this war zone. Do you want to wait and ask him personally?" "No Sarge, but would you mind checking with him first? I don't want to die!" "Kill the soldier, private." "No, I can't, he might not be the enemy. Just because he has enemy clothing on, has two hand grenades on his side and is carrying an AK-47 doesn't mean he's the enemy. He might just be doing laundry for a real enemy soldier and on his way back to take it to him." and on, and on, and on.
Funny how we made peoples homes and marketplaces a "war zone" then when they had no where to go (except the desert) you want to blame them for being in the "war zone" you created then kill them because they could be pissed off that you blew up their family and destroyed their country..... Great logical thinking you have
Oh yeah, pretend that our friends and family in the military went in to kill women and children. Thats logical.
Funny how you want the very soldiers there protecting and defending the Iraqi people to pull out so terrorists can win and take over the country. Somehow though, you probably can rationalize that train of thought, I'm sure
I don't have to pretend. There's plenty of evidence that our troops have killed 10's of thousands of civalians including women and children. You just got quoted testimony from real interrogators saying 95% of the guys they detain aren't even guilty of anything but being in their homes and cities. People that are tortured and killed. Who do you think takes all the photos from abu girab of prisoners being molested and tortured? The troops doing it..... Who's the real one "pretending" here??
YOu want to quote where I said that ?? I never said that... making you a LIAR I don't want the troops to pull out that would make it even worse. I think we should have never been there.
I don't have to, your posts consistently leave that impression. Does it shame you? Can I offer you a tissue?
Im not sure what world you live in, but the one I live in consist of a military made up of people just like you and... well not like you but normal Americans that until this war were working in shoe stores, enjoying ice cream, watching footbal with a six pack, etc. Ive got not one, but two siblings who faught in Iraq (one is still there) so Im sorry, I am just not going to buy into the lie you believe just because a few soldiers say it was so. My sister is person who gave up everything for this country and went and joined the AF. Are you lumping people like her into this "big bad American killing machine"? Are you saying she wants to kill innocent women and children? Think about it for a second, not does it sound rediculous, it is downright loony. I'm sorry, but after reading some of your posts, what you say has very little, if any importance to me. Try thinking for yourself, maybe then you'll start winning elections. The majority of Americans are not stupid.
"War is an ugly thing with undesirable consequences!" hmmm. trying to discredit truth before it hits? Is that a new tactic?
Yes which is why I would support it in only the worst of crimes and if the proof is so overwhelming there is no doubt at all. Such as actual video, credible eye witnesses, dna, etc. Yes even these forms of proof can be wrong, I'd just hate to see the death penalty used in cases as it already is when the facts are pretty flimsy from the get go. This would in my opinion be as you stated Nope not exactly a new problem I guess it could be argued, it however would create a problem within a problem that already exists. Yes but there is a huge difference from the government putting someone to death on flimsy speculation or flat out hearsay. Without sufficient proof above and beyond what is required for a standard guilty verdict I believe it could easily be argued putting people to death w/o sufficient proof is far worse than an accidental death, possibly even worse than being murdered by a single citizen, especially considering the government is doing it. I realy fail to see how this has anything to do with my point of, I support the death penalty in extreme cases, but my own opinion is that the proof should be without a doubt the person did it. Nope but yet again I don't see how this factors into making absolutely certain before someone is put to death they are guilty and not possibly innocent. I just wonder all those who are pro death penalty to the extent that they almost don't care if innocent people are put to death, how exactly they would feel if someone in their family, a friend, or themselves were found in the situation if they did not commit the crime they are accused of.
Will Are you supporting the suicide bombers, it seems to me that they are much more willing to die for their cause. May be you just post these quotes without thinking about what it means.