Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1322
    There's a difference in killing SOLDIERS than killing civilian women and children :rolleyes:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1323
    If you listened to recruiters "we're not at war you'll be perfectly safe - all you do is train for all this great stuff you chose and get lots of money for college! Just sign your life away right here next to the X" :rolleyes:

    Actually I'm pretty sure someone else called them kids, I just responded to your post afterward.

    Whats that going to accomplish? :rolleyes:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1324
    Ok so now we have the government telling us 18-20 year old are not mature/responsible enough to drink. But as long as you sign away your life in the military you can drink your brains out and be more irresponsible.

    The image of a bunch of 18-20 year olds drinking it up before training to get fight a war where they need to be in the best physical and mental shape possible doesn't seem right to me. If anything ALL DRUGS OF ALL KINDS should be banned from anyone in the military.... are you there to be serious and a good soldier or to "get wasted"
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1325
    I couldn't even read the entire Bible befor deciding religion as a whole was not for me. I'll keep my personal opinions of religion to myself b/c it offends way to many people.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1326
    I agree to an extent, but to possibly take any rights away from active serving military members I would strongly oppose. Look at the shit they have to go through, if having a good time and some drinks if it does not effect their roll in combat lifts their moral it is justification for me to allow them to do so.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    And once again, neither satisfied with it, or without it. Which just goes to show it's not a real issue. Complain if they do, complain if they don't.

    Of course, your image described above is not accurate. But then you haven't served your country to know that. One gives up many rights to serve their country and give those rights to others. I could just see a touchy/feely liberal proclaim to the First Sergeant "but I have freedom of speech." Heh, you have the right to extra duty, reduction in rank and pay and generally a miserable life with that kind of attitude. I saw a few try that crap when I was in. You either get with the program, or you get miserable real quick.

    I'd love to see you take away a soldier's beer, with all the comments you make here, after a 21 day training exercise in the field in 10-20 degree whether and 4 hours of sleep a night with intense training!
     
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    #1328
    Oh I forgot, in WWII no civilians were killed :rolleyes:
    Dang YoYo you have absolutely nothing to offer in here. All you do is twist things around trying to discredit others. You're a wonderful voice for the liberal community :D
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1329
    I honestly don't see that as a loss of free speach myself and agree with you. It would be a different story if after the military person was out of the military and they decided to exercise their free speach to be arrested for doing so, in my opinion at least.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #1330
    In WWII when civilians died there was leadership affected, like the japanese surrendered when we dropped atomic bombs, tons of civilians dead , but they stopped fighting

    In Iraq there is no real leadership, we could kill a million civilians and it won't make anyone surrender

    If we put the same effort into hunting down and killing the leaders, planners, and financiers of Al Queda as we put in Iraq. We would be safer.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1331
    No, it would make sense to either a) say 18-20 years old are ok to drink regardless of being in the military or not, or b) say 18-20 year olds are not old enough to serve in the military and war and keep the drinking age 21.

    Thats 2 solutions that actually make sense that I would be happy with.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    We have, and we are.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #1333
    The world isn't about making you or I happy based on our own perceptions of how things should be. It is the way it is, and has been for a long time. But contact your senator/congressman and let them know how adversely it is affecting you.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1334
    HEY [censored] HERES EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID:

    You said GERMAN SOLDIERS. You didn't say ANYTHING ABOUT CIVILIANS. How exactly did i twist anything around?? :rolleyes:
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1335
    You're right, but you said I would complain and never be satisfied, I was just showing you 2 common sense solutions that would satisfy me. It most likely won't change and to be perfectly honest with you I don't care enough about it to do anything more than complain. There's much more important things to focus time on. ;)
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1336
    Nope but we live in a republic often defined as a democracy in which our opinions should be considered, it is also a debate on what we feel should be and or how the facts are laid out ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Let's hope our military is never subjected by the trivial complaining of the left. I'd hate to seem them give up m16's and flak jackets for candles and tye dye peace shirts.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #1338
    Yeh.. the thought of 10,000 or so 18-20 year old high school drop outs with machine guns is much better!! ;)

    [​IMG]
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    If that's what you wish to think. I prefer whiney liberals that have no idea about military service, but think they do, have to serve four years. But that's just my opinion ;)
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #1340
    Wow where is this coming from and directed to? Rights of the people and or inconsistencies in the law I do not think are by anyway trivial but go to the core of what our country was founded on.

    On another note what is your take on if Bush veto's the 50 billion for Iraq? Using the argument that any vote against funding the troops for any reason other than the funding I would think to keep consistency you would also have to state this goes against the troops would you not?
     
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