Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #822
    Here Gtech

    I hope this makes you happy: ;)

    Provide one source that says Sulfuric Acid, Hydrogen prexoide, Nitroglycerin or Oxygen are classified as WMD.


    Can you show were are they classified as WMD together? :rolleyes:

    I make it even easier, if you can't show that these are WMD, please show that Iraq was prohibited to have any of these chemicals according to USA's demands before the war.

    When I say one source, I don't mean one of your crazy friends blog, I mean any official document from USA, UN or any other international treaties. ;)

    Why do you think that Iraq had permission to have missiles with lower range than 300 KM? Don't you think that missiles that have low range can still kill people?

    WMD, prohibited nuclear and biological materials are all defined by different rules and regulation, just because something can kill people, doesn't make it WMD and prohibited under international law.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    But shouldn't you also add in the requirement that it must be notarized by Nancy Pelosi, signed off on by saddam himself, approved by a high court in Iran and further break the chemicals down? We should also probably get clarification from France too :D
     
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  4. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #824
    Perhaps I should consult Dan Rather?

    Or, do we continue to ignore what twenty tons of chemical wmd can do?

    How about a wmd expert? Would that work? Did you get all your Andy quotes ready?
     
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  5. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #825
    You and yoyo and the only ones I have read that say that weapons don't kill people and you know you are right!!! Weapons don't kill people. People that are in control of those weapons do.

    Give a farmer fertilizer and he uses to grow food to feed people, give a war-monger friend of yours like osama and he will use it to kill. Get the picture?
     
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  6. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    Again, you are only talking 20 tons. gworld has 50 tons at his house now, he is using it to ... umm... .... (what were you planning to use it for?)
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I just brushed my teeth and used some chemical wmd to rinse my mouth out with! Imagine my surprise when I sat down and didn't go BOOM :D
     
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  8. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #828
    What? You don't think newsmax and the weekly standard are credible sources?

    GTech, if there was some kind of prize for who could be the most cocky & condescending while posting the most absolutely ridiculous sources of information, YOU WOULD BE THE WORLD CHAMP! (Or at least the DP champ)

    :D
     
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  9. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #829
    You want to quote me on that, liar? :rolleyes:

    Still no real reply to the factual points I've made that George Bush started this war unjustly and lied to the world.... I wonder why ;)

    Keep throwing out your personal insults (which wouldn't be so bad if you actually had ANY substance or real info at all with them).

    Oh well, we all see now how the "pro" war side debates... just like george bush debates :D
     
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  10. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #830
    [​IMG]

    here you go
     
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  11. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #831
    ferret;

    How did you get Gtech, Zman and debunked to pose for this picture? :D

    Gtech, Debunk

    Provide one source that says Sulfuric Acid, Hydrogen prexoide, Nitroglycerin or Oxygen are classified as WMD.


    Can you show were are they classified as WMD together?

    I make it even easier, if you can't show that these are WMD, please show that Iraq was prohibited to have any of these chemicals according to USA's demands before the war.
     
    gworld, Sep 30, 2005 IP
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    #832
    i am the one with the glasses.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #833
    You don't need to have any of those things that you mentioned. I accept the following sources:

    1- White House
    2- US Senate
    3- US Congress
    4- CIA
    5- FBI
    6- Other US government agencies
    7- United Nations including different agencies in that organization
    8- Any International signed treaty


    I can't be asking for any more conservative sources than this, can I? :rolleyes:

    Gtech,

    Provide one source that says Sulfuric Acid, Hydrogen prexoide, Nitroglycerin or Oxygen are classified as WMD.


    Can you show were are they classified as WMD together?

    I make it even easier, if you can't show that these are WMD, please show that Iraq was prohibited to have any of these chemicals according to USA's demands before the war.
     
    gworld, Oct 1, 2005 IP
  14. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #834
    gworld he can't..

    just like he can't explain where thousands of tons of chemical sarin and nerve gas went,

    just like he can't explain where a "fleet" of flying devices made to disperse bioligical/chemical weapons went,

    just like he can't explain where the rebuilt nuclear facilities are,

    just like he can't explain the "other" "worst weapons ever devised" went either.

    None of them can. And those are the 4 reasons George Bush used to start this war. Instead they'll make personal attacks at us and try to shift the focus away from all the lies and onto "other" reasons like "freeing the iraqis" that we all know is total BS.
     
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  15. zman

    zman Peon

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    #835
    Free beer was involved. :)
     
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  16. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    This is not trying to have it both ways. My main argument is that Bush had stated in many speaches, and chronies of his administration that these sites were where they had believed the WMDs were. The reason I never believed the WMDs were at these sites is simple, the UN inspectors, domestic experts and even EX cia experts in the area stated these sites were being inspected and the items which were in these sites were either marked, disabled and or allowed to have. We knew exactly what were in these sites and nothing stated that there were stockpiles of WMD, the only sources stating that there were at these sites was the Bush administration.

    At the time of the war build up I did not discount WMD's existing in Iraq, however I did not believe they were at these sites that we were inspecting and have previously inspected.

    Reguardless of your opinion, pro war, anti war, pro bush, anti bush and even pro saddam anti saddam it does not matter.

    The main question is 'if' Bush felt there were WMD's in these sites that had already been inspected and their contents tagged and inventoried by the weapons inspectors why would you not guard them immediately. I am not doing a catch 22 as I don't believe there were stockpiles of WMD there in the first place from all of the experts stating the above, but why on earth if Bush thought they were there would he not guard them immediately? Yes looting took place, that however does not state actual WMD's were looted nor do I believe actual WMDs were looted from these sites.

    To me personally I feel this shows yet another stretch of the Bush administration at WMDs as if they trully believed the WMD's were there he would have guarded them. Not guarding them shows he knew they were not there and he obviously felt no priority to guard these installations of which were of such importance before the war because of WMD.

    Can you at least answer this, did the Bush administration error by not guarding these sites sooner especially with the WMD that was supposed to be there according to the White House themselves? Especially since this in turn caused exactly what we were trying to prevent supposedly by not allowing dangerous items into the hands of possible terrorists, since now we have no idea where most of it went.

    I look forward to an answer and hope I can keep a cool enough head to get this item done once and for all, be it my point being proven or the opposite :)
     
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    yo-yo: the personal attacks towards you from who?
     
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    zman Peon

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    #838
    Yeah, we know you think it is BS. This is what makes our opinions different.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #839
    mmmmm beer
     
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    zman Peon

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    #840
    Because of beer I dont feel so hot today. :p
     
    zman, Oct 1, 2005 IP