Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #601
    Gtech, which branch of the military were you in?
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #602
    You were asking me if I thought it contradicted. I simply countered and asked if that's what you got out of it. Is it?
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #603
    I was in the US Army.
     
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  4. palespyder

    palespyder Psycho Ninja

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    #604
    I wish I could answer that question. They can find me on a unpaid parking ticket in like 15 minutes ;) How long they been searching for Osama? :cool:
     
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  5. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #605
    Is that where that avatar is from?
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #606
    No. The avatar is from a freeware set of desktop icons that I came across last year.
     
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  7. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #607
    Ok, thanks....now back to the discussion....
     
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  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #608
    Take if you've never done wholesale, I myself if I wanted to could easily buy a few tons of hydrogen peroxide although I'm sure in the US it would raise some flags but in the middle east I doubt it. 'maybe in the us you need a permit?'. Don't see how you could possibly conclude because there is a hi amount of hydrogen peroxide it must have come from an enemy state. It may have, not saying it didn't but that is again a huge jump from the facts to a fictional world which I have yet to see proven. I have bought large amounts of certain chemicals myself for one of my businesses, when you buy that big you buy wholesale and don't go to the drug store :)
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #609
    Gtech

    Here is the dangers of Gasoline:

    Many of the non-aliphatic hydrocarbons naturally present in gasoline (especially aromatic ones like benzene), as well as many anti-knocking additives, are carcinogenic. Because of this, any large-scale or ongoing leaks of gasoline pose a threat to the public's health and the environment, should the gasoline reach a public supply of drinking water.

    Gasoline also reacts dangerously with certain common chemicals; for example, gasoline and crystal Drāno react together in a spontaneous combustion


    How many gallon of gasoline do you have in your car? You are in a possession of chemical WMD. :rolleyes:
    This proves that you are a terrorist and if we can prove that the oil came from Iraq, then you are also a friend of Saddam that smuggled the chemical WMD to USA. ;)

    I hope your are noticing how stupid your line of reasoning is.

    MAJORITY OF CHEMICALS ARE DANGEROUS FOR HUMANS, how we use it is the difference. Gasoline can be used to drive a car or blow up something but it doesn't make it a WMD.
     
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  10. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #610
    Ahh maybe I read you wrong. Yes I do believe the story contradicts the previous story you listed, one states easily obtainable chemicals while the other I believe listed VX nerve agent, tying Saddam into it because 'Syria' doesn't produce VX.

    If I'm wrong here please put me straight.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #611
    My lack of wholesale experience in chemicals, including VX nerve agent, and others that could kill 80,000 people when in the hands of known terrorists is non-existent.

    I can't help but wonder if that's the same defense strategy their attorneys argued when trying to convince a court they were simply harmless?
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #612
    Thank you, that was very kind of you! With that information, I am now able to conclude that 20 tons of chemical wmd, including VX nerve agent were simply harmless and we should start a campaign to get these al qaida members released.

    Do you have information on the dangers of mouthwash?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #613
    They don't even need to buy or produce it in middle east, they can simply fill the export paper work and an American company will ship these chemicals to them. :rolleyes:

    Don't forget even today anybody can legally purchase a .50 caliber rifles for export. This is the most powerful rifle in wide circulation and can bring down jet airliners or penetrate thick steel on Armour personnel carriers from more than a kilometer away.

    Why produce these chemicals or rifles when American companies will gladly sell it to you for small price and can be exported with government blessing? ;)
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #614
    Ok but one article states 'vx' from an outside expert, the other article you posted states nothing about VX you don't see the contradiction in this especially to keep bringing the point up? I was posting about the article you posted about Hydrogen Peroxide, not the other article about VX.

    This has nothing to do with defense, or defending them, defending Saddam, etc it's simply rational thought. Jumping to large amounts of an easy to obtain chemical must come from an enemy state simply does not cut it.

    Back later, my fishies need their water changed.
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #615
    There are a handful of reports on the subject. There were some that had more information than others. Like any other reporting, they offer what is available at the time. That one omits VX doesn't discount the other.

    If you are inclined, feel free to research and offer links to support your personal conclusion.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #616
    But we chalk up 20 tons of chemical wmd, including VX, that can kill 80,000 people as nothing more than mouthwash.

    Yea, that makes perfect sense!
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #617
    There is no mention of VX in your quote about trial, don't you think that they would have mentioned VX if they have found it?

    There is no report that Iraq even had VX, the list countries that have VX are:

    USA, Russia, France and Syria.

    They only mention poisions gas which can be result of burning different chemicals.

    Can you also please give us a list of your so called chemical WMD, so you don't change it, every time we prove you wrong.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #618
    Maybe not, but it does not make the VX a reality or fact because one person an 'outside expert' says that's what he thought it was, even though he probally never was there or actually had any first hand experience.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #619
    No you are missing the whole point

    The point isn't that they wern't serious about killing people, its not that they wern't a threat, or it was no big deal

    The point is those were not 20 tons of the WMD we invaded the country to destroy ....

    jesues christ, its like a little kids arguement,

    if someone says these aren't saddam WMDs, or WMDs we invaded for, gtech, your response is that they are saying the chemicals were harmless, or that the guys who had them are good guys, or that some how by saying those arn't the WMDs we invaded for its support the terrorists.
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #620
    It's there. hrblcantra was able to find it, surely you could.

    Really? I'm glad I don't take your word for it. I bet the people of Jordan are glad their courts don't take your word that it's just mouthwash!

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77675,00.html
    There are no chemical wmd. It's all just mouthwash. Those nice al qaida guys were just trying to help people keep fresh breath! You know how that hot sun can parch the lips on a hot summer day :rolleyes:
     
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