I doubt it saddam probably told them to do it your right though it was 88 seventeen years ago http://hnn.us/articles/862.html Totally off the subject but Will. earlier in the thread I remeber you saying something to effect that one of gtechs posts about sanctity of life, or unborm or something was really great, but then I remember in another debate you said Just wondering are you for abortion or not?
Ya, the rest of the world didn't have to worry that someone might try to stop them from doing something like blowing up stuff. You know how much fun it is to blow up things don't you? They don't like Bush cause he might actually react and do something about it! Of course the men liked Clinton, he showed that women are property used for sex just like in those other countries.
That whole Monica thing seemed to bother you guys a lot more than it bothered the rest of us. He's human. Nobody was hurt. Get over it. And... if you wish me to choose between inaction by Clinton and action by Bush, that's an easy one. Inaction by Clinton, because, again, he didn't make the world any worse than it is.
Nope! He was politically neutral and did not get involved with governmental affairs. That’s why I stay out of politics. I just like to point out history for what it is, but I believe the only solution to mans problems is Gods kingdom. Like the bible say's, Man cannot rule themselves. History proves that. Same as above. Jesus said to pay Caesar’s things to Caesar but Gods things to God. Jesus was the first to forgive tax collectors, but he did not involve himself in its corruption nor speak against it. The only death penalty I would educate those in the community against is legalized abortion. However, I do it from the bible and not from the ballot box. The ballot box is a waste of time. Nations will do as the nations have always done to the detriment of mankind and that is what history truly exposes. I have yet to see a president of any nation, not become a liar, go back on their words, and show that leadership can be tainted very shortly after winning the race. I have no faith in a man, but only Gods kingdom witch will soon do away with this present wicked system of things once the United Nations turns against false religion. D
I guess you feel that adultery does not hurt anyone? In your world, women should just accept a man who violates the marriage bed. In your world it does not hurt the children who have to live with the shame of a deceitful, betrayer, and selfish man who put his lust first and his family second (especially in front of a nation). Who cares, get over it! This is the new "me" generation that feels nothing for righteousness and goodness, and that if it feels good, just do it. So the heck with the wife, the children, and the community as a whole, for adultery hurts no one. Divorce hurts no one? Unwanted pregnancy hurts no one? Venereal disease hurts no one? Abortion hurts no one? Homosexuality hurts no one? Drugs hurt no one? Sex outside of marriage hurts no one? Its all good…… It’s a new dawn, when debased, unloving men hurt no one.
Are you suggesting all the above be thrown into jail? Also curious to your description of a drug, is this all drugs or just drugs the US government has classified as a drug or?
God no. I want to see people change from the heart. Laws do little to keep people from doing what will hurt them. People must change from within, and do what is right despite the laws of the land. As far as drugs that are harmful, this has always been a pointless argument. One mans candy is another mans vice. I look to what Jesus ingested in his lifetime as an example of what is approved. I used to do drugs; coke, marijuana, and a host of other psychotic drugs, and I am glad to have them out of my life. Going to jail helped me to examine my life along with getting an accurate knowledge of God years later. See, I can speak from experience. I owned knight clubs in Florida, where I did more drugs and had more sex than 50 men could have in a lifetime. My father still owns nightclubs, and he is slowly getting out of that life. I have had to live with the consequences of a debauched lifestyle: Venereal disease, DUI’s, drunken fighting, broken homes, and jail time. That is why I am so adamantly apposed to it. I can see the damage first hand, and what it does to lives. There is no harmless recreational drug, nor is there any harmless or recreational sex. Vices are what they are, just like war is what it is, and anyone can rationalize what they do in life despite the apparent problems that come in the form of a consequence. That’s why laws on minor crime are useless. D
Umm so you are a Christian for the death penalty? Is that what that means? Do you think if jesus was around now he would he would turn asprin into extasy rather then water into wine? Which jails did you get to go to were they down here, in Florida? Can you suggest any good clubs in Florida, I don't really go clubbing anymore but one of my friends are visiting from NY next month, and they will probably want to go out.
Bigdoug while I do not agree with everything you posted, I do respect your stance and give you even more respect from how you came to it... thank you for the response
Thanks; I appreciate the open dialogue that you and others have provided here. I don't expect to convert anyone with winsome words, just share information to get us all to think. Sometimes it is life and what it throws at us that will have a more profound effect than a preachy sounding sermon. Each one of us changes in our own due time, usually when we get older and see life for what it is and when we can reflect in a meaningful way. D
Really? I thought you were more intelligent than this. Hey, I can be wrong once and a while. Vietnam was started to liberate the Vietnameese from Communists. The Gulf War was started to liberate Kuwait from Iraq. WWII was started to liberate Europe from Nazis. Next question...
You must not have ever ingested ecstasy. Wine and ecstasy are not even close to the same substance or its effects. Wine, as a food and eaten in moderation can be healthy. Ecstasy is not a food and is very unhealthy. I don't think Jesus would have made an unhealthy substance for his friends to eat or drink. What real friend would? D
Wonder why what is? Why they hate Bush? No, never wonder. I know. They are mad because he won and their candidate/s lost, not once, but twice. Pretty childish when you think about it. Really? I never said that. I am a supporter of TRUSH, JUSTICE and the AMERICAN way. And I would die or kill protecting all of these things. Someone is finally in the White House that appears to be doing that, so on that note, I'm quite content. As compared to who? What statistics show this? Every president is equally hated and loved on both sides. I see no difference now, as it was then outside of MEDIA coverage, which is owned entirely by leftist interests (including FOX). That's a stretch. Ask the Brits how respected he was when he entertained a known Irish Terrorist in the White House. Ask the Saudis how respected he was when he gave aid and comfort to Osma Bin (what a dumb name) Laden. I could go on... Ultimately the rest of the world saw Clinton as a JOKE. They did not respect him, liked him perhaps. There is a difference. You lost me there. I think if you said, "they liked him due to the fact he was a "do nothing" president" you would be pretty much in the ball park. How so? So you are saying only morons make it into the White House. Let's see how many presidents have their been in nearly 250 years? It's not something just anyone can do, or would do. I'm inclined to think that Bush is a bit more intelligent than you want to give him credit for. After all, more Americans voted for him than any other candidate. More Americans wanted him to be president, not once but twice. What does that say about all those Americans then? Are they unintelligent too? Again, because you do not like him, you resort to childish name calling. It's really getting old. So on the "peaceful" front you are going to tell me that he was not "peaceful" prior to 9/11? Yeah , come to think of it, I seem to remember when Texas decided to go to war with the rest of the US when Bush was governor. Come on, the guy was a drunk for how many years? From what I have heard and seen of his "happier" days he was passive, sedate, and the life of the party. Anything but aggressive and "un-peaceful". You do know there is a war going on right? No he is hated because some people are jealous of him, jealous that he is president and their candidate is not. They hate him because he is right most of the time. They hate him because he is doing the job they could not. They hate him because he is undoing the mess that Clinton left behind, economy failing, unemployment up, interest rates high, no energy policy, and no solution for SS. They hate him, because he is getting the job done. 5 billion people are disgusted by Bush? Ok, hmmm where are the stats on that? It's that statement that convinces me, yes so much angst, hatred and brainwashing has caused you to lose your mind... That and a few others. FEW being the key word here. 5 billion... You crack me up. That's a new one on me. Funny stuff!!! Hard to hear? No. Old? Yes. What is "hard to hear" is the truth. That my friend is why you are so angry and why a handful hate Bush.
It's statements like these that boggle the mind. I think you have the liberal mentality confused with reason and sensibility again. Right = Think for ourselves. Left = Let us think for you! That is what drew me to the right in the first place, the fact that I can disagree with anything, and still be accepted. I just cannot imagine the daily torture and "Clock Work Orange" psychosis that must take place as union workers receive almost daily loads of junk mail TELLING them where they can shop, where they can get gas, and who they are to vote for. Free your mind, leave the dark side. Imagine being able to go into a voting booth and vote for a democrat alderman, and a Republican Mayor, or Sheriff, or visa versa? I love the freedom to think for myself. It is so liberating. No, sorry man, Will and I did not receive a book with our marching orders. We do not have a list of approved things we can and can't do. That is why you find so many Black Republicans, Mexican Republicans, Gay and Lesbian Republicans, etc. Some don't like to be told what to do, they like to think for themselves. What a concept.
Actually I think the gulf was was started by saddam when he invaded kuwait, WWII was started when the nazis invaded poland, i think most historians would agree.