Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #3281
    What about china, and the rise and fall of USSR?

    And the european union?

    Back to this

    Won't that mean that most of the republican party will be gone? I mean they seem to have big percentage of christians that practice devisive politics? Particulary using christanity as leverage for their devisive politics?
     
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  2. bigdoug

    bigdoug Peon

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    #3282
    Yes, the entire political system will be destroyed. Doesen't matter what form it comes in. Would anyone really mourn the end of the political scene?

    D
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #3283
    Doug

    It seems that there is no mention of united nation in bible since you could not show us the quote. What you have written is just bunch of made up stories that you interpreted as united nation, while some on else can interpret it totally different.

    There are also many historical problems with your story since you had to limit yourself to the original seven in the story. If we look at the real history (not preacher history), you will see that after Rome there were many powerful empires for example Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Russia, France,China, Germany, England, Soviet Union and now USA. According to your reasoning, we should be at least on empire number 15-16.

    In fact your posting shows the danger of religion when it fills people mind with such fantasies instead of teaching them the real history of mankind. How can you think about future when all you know about past is just bunch of made up fantasies?
     
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  4. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #3284
    Sorry I'm not contributing to the thread, I simply found this statement funny ! :D :D :D

    You're in Canada, it can't be that hard to find ;)
     
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  5. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #3285
    Christianity started with the fall of man at the beginning of mankind -Adam & Eve pointing to Jesus since then.
    So how old is Christianity?
     
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  6. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #3286
    Yeah, drugs are cheap in Canada, right? Thank the US for footing the bill (most of)! ;)
     
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  7. bigdoug

    bigdoug Peon

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    #3287
    'Real history' or as I would put it, secular history, has never acknolwedged Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Russia, France, China, Germany and the Soviet Union as 'World Powers' although they have been 'powerful empires' like you mentioned.

    Spain, France, Germany are all offshoots of the Roman Empire. As far as bible chronology is concerned, in reference to the interpretaion of King Nebechadnezzar's dream, they are a part of Rome.

    The past is very important. It helps us to understand our future. An honest, in-depth study is different from 'fantasy'.

    The bible does not need to mention the United Nations specifically. Honest bible students study the bible and look for the signs.

    Back in Jesus day, the scribes and Pharisees hated Jesus and wanted him dead. They accused him of horrible things to make him look bad in the eyes of the Jews and of Rome. The one thing they could not accuse him of was of not being the Messiah because 'it was not the time for the Messiah to appear'. Meaning that the Jewish scholars of that day knew that according to Bible chronology, the Messiah was to appear at around that time, where he was to be born and the family line he was to come from. They looked for the signs, not a name.

    33 years later when the Roman armies were encamped around Jerusalem under Cestius Gallus, Jews who paid attention to the teachings of Jesus knew that this was the signal to abandon Jerusalem and flee to the mountains.

    Inexplicably, Gallus pulled his troops out and those Jews did flee. Four years later, The Romans under Titus came back and completely razed Jerusalem, killing over a million and taking 100,000 hostage.

    Jesus had told them to look for certain signs and the ones that paid attention were spared. The ones that did not lost their lives. He did not tell them to look specifically for Gallus or Titus or a specific date, just a sign.

    The last days of this system of things will be similar according to the teachings of Jesus.

    D
     
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  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #3288
    huh?

    I wasn't referencing 'drugs' well one thing that some still consider a drug...I see it as Canada waking up to the realities and not believing the lies put out by the US government. Most in the US in poll after poll have also woken up to the truths and no longer believe the government lies, that however has yet to equate into any actual change.
     
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  9. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #3289
    I said drugs, but I meant "drugs"....;) :)

    The US government doesn't lie a lot more than many other countries and a lot less than quite a lot. But that can only be my impression, who knows the truth...?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #3290
    Scientific studies have discounted almost all of the lies about wacky tobaccy #1,,#2 the US has been the driving force for many of the policies of other countries around the world for decades when it comes to wacky tobaccy.
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3291
    From the nature of gworld's posts, it seems quite clear that drugs are very easy to find in Canada...
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #3292
    That is the problem with secular history, it just chose and pick in history and reality to justify the fantasies. British empire was more powerful than USA in historical term but according to you, it didn't exist because it doesn't suit some preacher fantasy.

    You have the same problem in bible and history of Christianity. Can you show us even one historical proof that Jesus even existed? The whole history of virgin Mary and birth of Jesus was caused by John not being able to read the old testament in original language and instead studied in Greek and since he mistakenly understood the word for young girl as virgin in Greek text for description of mother of messiah, he had to invent the story of virgin, in order his story be in line with old texts.

    If the bible doesn't mention the united nation then how do you know that your interpretation is true while somebody else can think that the bible refers to Olympic committee. It has all the nations as members, works for co-operation and peace. ;)
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3293
    Are you certain that you are from Canada?

    Don't they teach English in Canada?

    Read your last post. Or, I should say, try to read your last post.

    How can we possibly even attempt to take you seriously when your posts show you to be barely literate?
     
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  14. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #3294
    Will it been awhile since you have actually posted anything interesting or amusing, it like 10 post in row now with super corny insults. Not even responding really to the BS we are talking about. Not like this disscussion is really going anywhere, anyway.

    Wow what a knee slapper, I see why you dropped out of high school with come backs like that, high school must have been very difficult.

    Another side splitter, oh stop please, so witty
     
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  15. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #3295
    Don't worry about it, after the idealogical bankruptcy of Republican ultra-right and the mounting failures of Bush administration, people like little willy have nothing to say. What are they going to post about? The indisputable WMD that government admits it didn't exist. Winning the war in Iraq while government is getting ready to run from there or the administration honesty in a time that one after another is being charged with crimes.

    Little willy

    instead of wasting your time with meaningless posts, why don't you try to get your high school degree so you can join the army when you grow up. I know it is hard for you but if you can get in the army, you can play with real guns and they teach you how to be a man so you don't need to hide under your bed. ;)
     
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  16. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3296
    The answer you seek is within your own words.
     
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    #3297
    Is this what colleges are teaching today?

    D
     
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  18. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #3298
    still no 911 iraq link

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10414514/site/newsweek/

    doug according to this guy the british empire appears to be one of largest ever

    http://www.hostkingdom.net/earthrul.html

    in fact the amount of the world we controled is much less then several previous empires that occured since the time the bible was written

    Yeah colleges are big on facts and stuff, a lot of college stuff has very little real world use but its definitely a good place to load up on litte facts
     
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  19. bigdoug

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    #3299
    Ferret; please look at your post 3281. I already made mention of the Anglo - World Power that you acknowledged.

    D
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #3300
    In gworld's case, that would be collage. It's unfortunate some cannot even buy a clue these days.
     
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