Oh I see. So you are going on second hand information. Well I am as well, but my information comes from friends and family IN IRAQ. Kids are happy and play with soldiers daily. Women are beginning to get involved in government. Businesses are being started. Things are getting better. How in the world can you say they were not worse before? Do you actually study the history of Iraq under Saddam? Obviously not. Or at least, you ignore the facts in order to further your agenda. Now what I have just posted will piss off a terrorist so go ahead and do what you do to make them happy again.
I am glad that you don't consider throwing pee on someone by a soldier and making a grow up man cry in the street a form of oppression, otherwise your statement could be understood that you support the right of Iraq's people to fight an occupation army.
Funny, errr, not-so-funny how the media only picks the 1 out of thousands of stories that is bad (or made up, who knows now days) I have heard so many possitive stories. It is like the prison story, the media couldn't wait to find a negative thing to show how bad america is, yet they ignore the many positive stories that are out there. Yes, it would suck to not feel safe on a daily basis because sum scum bag might blow himself up with your family. This whole thread make me think of my teenager, who blames the results of his actions on others instead of the actions themselves.
An 82 year old manhandled out of the Labour party conference for saying "Nonsense" when Jack Straw was discussing Iraq. Walter Wolfgang (82) was then detained on ANTI TERRORISM charges. Just happend.
It JUST happend. The paranoia is spilling over, I mentioned not long ago that its turning this way. Dammit, I might go down there its only 10 minutes away even Cherie Blair's sister was 'minded' for joking about mentioning Iraq
So all the pictures of dead people are lies. The children that have lost their arms or legs don't exist. Children with 80% burn on their body are not real and it is just make up on them. Washington post reporter lies and those people don't exist. MSNBC lies too by putting the washington post report on the web. The pictures of prison abuses are lies too and just made up by terrorists and that is the reason the innocent American soldiers were convicted and serving prison time now. All these and everything else negative are just lies and made up by terrorists. In reality kids are playing, businesses are growing, people are dancing in the streets with joy because they are occupied. How do we know all these things, because your friend said so.
The De menezes (family of the brazillian electrician who was tripped up and shot in the back of the head repeatedly at stockwell tube) are currently in London, they say her son was Shot like a dog. His mum wants the police responsible punished and "Sir" Ian Blair to resign. - She was at stockwell Tube too today. havent read this article, but here you go. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4288682.stm So, Those that accused me of being Anti US. I am anti these kinds of things, whoever they are comitted by.
Not to argue the point Zman but all I had read of what is actually going on is woman are losing rights not gaining them in Iraq, any possible reading material stating the opposite? Most of the rights Saddam even took away form Iraq woman was to try to make the Shia happy, the ones who now hold the vast majority of power in Iraq.
The terror groups with all their many buddies world wide must be laughing their asses off over us arguing in here and arguments and figths stirred up around the world. How foolish instead of sticking together and fighting this thru effectively and for good.
I'm pretty sure everything I have read has said woman are losing their right in Iraq, saddam was a secular ruler , at least more so then most countires in that region. Woman had more rights in Iraq, while he was in power, as the theocratic government takes over they will be losing rights. But hey maybe they will sell us cheap oil
links please. g, you READ it so you KNOW it? I see the dead on tv as well, but it is usually because one of your buddies killed them, not coalition forces. I see the pictures as well, but again, it is usually because one of your pals killed them, not coalition forces. Let me ask you, do you think our families and friends who are in the military are murderers?
Would make my toys go vroom a bit cheaper I also have heard nothing more as well, woman actually losing rights in Iraq not the opposite. A few consessions had been made to give woman rights back that they were stripping away, but those from what I read were only temporary, more for pc than any actual merit and many had already been removed. New reading anyone? I got time to read a few articles
Um sure I'll post some but this is common knowledge for anyone who has taken even 5 minutes to look into iraq's past more than watching left or right wing news, I was asking you for links to support your theory
DA posting was about this guy, is he a terrorist too? Ms Hayton told Sir Jeremy Beecham, who was chairing the session: "We are very concerned about the way in which a gentleman of over 80 was manhandled from the balcony. .................... The party member of 57 years' standing told the BBC 2's Daily Conference Live programme: "These two toughies came round and wanted to manhandle me out. "I said: 'Do you want me to leave? I will leave, you don't need to manhandle me.' Physically, I am not too well, so I said I would follow them. .............................. Mr Wolfgang, who escaped Nazi Germany in 1937, is a member of the Stop the War Coalition. Complaint over heckler treatment