Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #2801
    Ferret, do you really think that we are doing something bad? Do you really think that everything will be fine if we stand on the sidelines and just watch things as they happen?
     
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  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2802
    umm will I know they are not the same hostages, I was asking if the hostage takers where from the same county, which I beleive they were

    of course where did you go since your family was too poor to buy food and furniture?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #2803
    And don't forget the Reagan advisers were in talks with Iranians to stop the release of hostages before the election because they feared that if the hostages were released then Carter will win the election.

    Very "patriotic" and republican, keep the Americans hostage in Iran to make sure that you win an election. :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #2804
    That was what Jimmy Carter gave them -- for which he got nothing.

    You would have to be stupid to believe that is what really caused the release of the hostages the moment that Ronald Reagan was inaugurated.
     
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  5. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2805
    yeah that whole thing was pretty fishy

    the guns for hostages thing didn't happen for 5 years later

    Still Iranians though
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

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    #2806
    What a complete load of crap.

    Do you really believe the shit that you spew?
     
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  7. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2807
    so why did have to trade guns for these other hostages?
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

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    #2808
    Excatly, because a that time we knew that those missiles would be quickly expended upon the army of Saddam Hussein.

    Hell, at that time I was all for shipping free ammunition to both Iran and Iraq.

    Getting some hostage back was just an extra bonus.
     
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  9. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #2809
    Will responding to you ;) not quoting though as that would have made for a long post this time around.

    I realise we could not destroy all of their facilities in a bombing run, we could however deliver a pretty damn good blow I would believe and go from there could we not? Reguardless as you stated in a full out invasion we would be hitting them from the air. This way if all else failed they would already be partially softened up for us in advance.

    Yes we do not and will not have great intelligence inside Iran, I however am giving our intelligence community and the administration the benefit of the doubt. If they have more facts or what they believe to be happening and they were to do a missile strike/bombing campaign I think they could easily have the support from within the US and even to an extent abroad, big difference from an all out invasion though. Iraq also does complicate things, while making it somewhat easier since we are there.

    I don't give a rats ass either if it's necessary at that time, I simply am stating not rushing, trying to get any T's and or I's crossed and dotted. I'm not talking years, hell if we weren't in Iraq at this time I may be in full support at this very second to attack. I'm taking the entire over all picture into effect, not simply good versus evil. I would have preffered we actually attacked Iran instead of Iraq if we were going to go after someone after Afganistan. We however did not, and now this is the situation we are in.

    Spreading ourselves to thin, half the reason I state I'd support a bombing campaign ;)

    As far as watching goes we can still to a limited degree watch suspected facilities and movement, see what's coming into the ports as we have done in the past.

    My missile strike statement was not meant as an end solution, not Clintonian, more of a friendly birth day greeting. A message, not a solution.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #2810
    Fortunately, much of the rest of the world doesn't share your rubber band theory when the president of Iran calls for the destruction of Israel, and fires most of the staff working on negotiations dealing with nuclear programs.

    Suddenly a mushroom cloud requirement doesn't seem so far fetched.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2811
    you guys ever wonder why so many people hate the jews?
     
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    #2812
    It was the whole the enemy of my enemy is a friend thing.
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2813
    I don't know the life cycle of tow missile but it would ironic if they ended up being used against us
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #2814
    I thought the guy glued to a toilet seat at home depot was going to be the funniest thing I read today. Now I have to go back and send a new email out to my list :D
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

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    #2815
    OK, let's start.

    The facilities you want to bomb are hidden. You do not know their location, and you strongly suspect they are buried in the ground deep underneath hospitals, elementary schools, and foreign embassies.

    Where do you drop the first bombs?
     
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    #2816
    I dunno, but it feels like a few people in this thread might be able to explain it to me...
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #2817
    the quran is a good start.
     
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    #2818
    We start by taking any facility out that we know of or can hit, not all of the facilities are underground. It is a start, not an end solution.

    Many of the facilities are also interconnected, even if you only take 1/2 of them out it may have just set them back several years.
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

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    #2819
    Actually, I am only joking.

    The reason that people hate the Jews is due to a lack of the ability to take responsibility.

    Weak people feel that they must have someone else to blame for everything that is not "right" in their lives.

    The Jews fit nicely into that role. So does George W. Bush.

    Hitler, OBL, gworld, it's all the same phenomena.
     
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    #2820
    And yet the rest of the world is not calling for an attack on Iran or an invasion.
     
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