Nor is it standing by, making excuses for, seeking sympathy for or defending terrorists. Aromatherapy candles and posting on forums in support of terrorists were not our weapons of choice
This interview with the Butcher of Baghdad is well worth reading. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=20043
I am sure you were very brave while giving out pamphlets to high school students. After all, we all know how dangerous the battle fields of high schools can be.
You guys need to all chill out for a minute, click on my blog and vote for Nintendo to become the King of SitePoint
It sounds like something that Rumsfelt or Cheney would say if they ever end up in International war crime court. Just replace Iraq with USA and Saddam with Bush in the text.
I stand for what civilization should stand for: Democracy, Liberty, Human rights,.... and I hope Canada and USA would support the same principals. On the other hand, people like you who support killing, torture and a lawless society are disgrace to all human decency.
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow I advocate democracy, human rights and rule of law even in regard to psychopaths like you.
On the other hand, you are an American by birth but a disgrace to everything USA is suppose to stand for as declared by the USA founders in the Constitution and bill of rights.
Yes latehorn believes there is no war going on, it's a simple matter of Iraq having more crime than the US
I'll wait around for the day you have a bad word for a terrorist before buying that. How's your bud, Jose, doing?
So everyone is getting worried about how the situation is developing in Iran. Nobody is talking about invading Iran, it's up to the UN now to show what how much they're worth. Of course it's going to take so long that in the mean time Iran can build and develop some nuclear power. Looks like Iraq, giving Saddam so much time to get rid of biochemicals that he finds himself in a very good position indeed to defend himself, as some consider him a victim (of the US, UK, etc) and might even want to free him (in the face of his victims which obviously don't count). If eventually we can search for nuclear weapons (at least it's easier than biochemicals) are we going to find them? Well at least they can't hide them in Iraq and it would be risky to move them to Syria. Well I guess there's Pakistan, and god save those in the area if another major earthquake strikes hard on those materials! Let's see what the UN can do this time. If they do nothing quick, why bother having and financing such a ridiculous organization?
What more do you think the UN should be doing at this moment above and beyond what they currently are? Would have been easier if we just put a bullet in his brain pre war, however wasn't getting rid of WMD's the point behind the UN on this case for the most part? Just because we have not found any is far from proof they were shipped elsewhere and until the proof is found it's going to make Saddam look like he fully complied with getting rid of WMD's to most of the world. Nuclear weapons in Iran? Didn't realise there was any real strong assertion that Iran currently had nuclear weapons. What would you have them do right at this moment? A ridiculous organization, yet one of the top reasons pro war people continue to chant is that Saddam was in defiance of UN resolutions. Which one is it, the UN decides all, or the UN is worthless, or just when it's on the side of the persons beliefs or? I realy am a bit confused on this argument 'not saying you've done it' but so many Pro War people continue to bring up both sides of this. By this I am not talking about this thread
That's the point. UN have to be reformed or are useless. In what way? I think that most countries are not capable of making the most of such an organization, and try using it to their advantage. Actually it's used more to protect economic interests than human rights or whatever definetely more important. For instance, given the importance of every single vote, particularly in the general assembly, smaller and poorer countries use their otherwise negligible power to obstruct richer nations, which in theory is understandable, but makes many reasonable efforts by some meaningless just because it doesn't help the third world countries. I mean, so little results with so much money spent. It's ridiculous. It might develop into something good in the future, but at present money would be better spent in many ways, even with aid to those that need it. Instead third world diplomats are enjoying it while they ask for more, only some of which to their starving and thirsty people. That's disgusting to me. I can't stand the UN as it is now! As for Iran, OK, no proof let's wait for the proof, when and if you'll have it, what are you going to do? Just hope they don't use it against Israel or anyone else? Please note that having the power means you are already using it as a threat, whether in the open or not. That's very scary in a country where basic rights are not guaranteed. At least in the western world people complain because they privacy is under threat, when in some places women's status is almost that of slaves, and of course they can't complain! Oh dear, so people complain a lot in the US but not in Iran, and that means there's a lot to complain about in the US but nothing in Iran? Open your eyes before someone shuts them forever!
Sorry the only real point I thought needed addressing. I was not asking for proof, but I have not heard so mush as an assertion that Iran currently has nuclear weapons, have you heard otherwise? Sure I've read a few conspiracy type blogs stating they might but that's about it.
To get a nuclear weapon that's not just a dirty bomb, it's a long process and it takes a long time, for technical reasons mostly. For instance, you need to fit them on missiles to pose a real threat in the neighbourhood. It needs a lot of various bits and pieces, chemicals and materials, and money, cash money, and experts doing the job, the planning, the training, etc. All has to be done discretely in order to avoid leaving traces and therefore providing evidence to those oppose those plans, in front of the UN or whatever. It's known that they are at the beginning stages of the process. That's agreed upon by most countries, while others simply don't care as there's always someone else that do. What is really not known is at what stage they are and what capabilities they already have. Inspections by UN officials would be fine in theory but they can't work in practice. So satellite photos and intelligence information that can't even be brought forward are the most reliable source of info.
Which is why most people do not think they currently have a nuclear weapon. It has been claimed of a few countries, where do you get 'most'? The proof I've read thus far shows dual use items, not anything that directly ties to a nuclear weapon 'only'. They more than likely are trying to build a nuclear weapon, but that's is not coming from any proof that we as citizens know, that's simply coming from the fear of an evil country like Iran getting one. Logic versus fear, not fully factual and highly involving speculation to state from what we know it has to be a nuclear weapon. Do you believe if they did everything in the open the US and others would not be stating it's for nuclear weapons still? I highly doubt that. Nope no way to know for sure. Depending on the inspections why exactly could they not? huh?
OK, you're right. I am wrong to worry. They are never going to have any nuclear weapons because it's hard to organize the process. The best thing we can do to make Israel and the other infidels is to tell them that we asked Iran if they are getting any nuclear weapon building materials and they said: Oh no, not at all! Yeah, I feel very reassured now! And so would the Israelis! OK, let's put it that way, seriously, in fact I won't be posting too much in the next few weeks, particularly in this kind of time sucking forums! Please be kind to GTech, Will, Debunked, MD and the others... Thanks for the debate hrbl! PS: a little sarcasm above, but never mind, maybe it really is too soon to get worried...