Anti-War 100,000 - Pro-War 400

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by gworld, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #2601
    Unfortunately, most of those folks have left the Democratic Party in recent years.

    Worse, no reasonable candidate can survive the DNC nomination process, which is dominated by the parties hard-core loony wing.

    Of course, the RNC isn't in that much better shape. Although the RNC has not sufferred the volume of defections that the DNC has, it is still damned difficult to get the nomination if you have any real backbone.
     
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  2. caseagainstbushcom

    caseagainstbushcom Peon

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    #2602
    I always like that one. I am the narrow minded one for linking to the entire King James version of the Bible with cross referenced annotated notes on fourteen different issues,
    Injustice, Absurdity, Cruelty and Violence, Intolerance, Contradictions, Family Values, Women, Good Stuff, Science and History, Prophecy, Sex, Language, Interpretation and Homosexuality whereas you referenced "Romans 13:1-7."



    No. I mean these lies.


    Being against U.S. and International Law is what makes it illegal.


    Was it Bush's failure to capture or kill Osama because he outsourced the job to hired guns with a history of switching sides despite that fact that we had plenty of forces in country that you're most proud of? Or was it Bush telling the FBI to back off the bin Ladens that you're so proud of?

    One cannot be a true Christian and support George W Bush or the war. Only a giant hypocrite could claim to be a Christian and be pro-Bush.
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #2603
    Is this kind of Bush declaring, Iran and North Korea axis of evil? :rolleyes:

    Part of the job of being a politician is to say stupid things that stupid people like you believe.

    Did Bush attacked North Korea? No
    Has Iran attacked Israel? No

    Israel was the middle man during Iran-Iraq war selling American military supply to Iran since USA did not want to deliver directly to Iran and Iran was as religious or even more religious than now. :rolleyes:

    Actually I think you and this new Iranian president have a lot in common, both of you need to shout kill, kill in order to feel like a man and compensate for the small size of your....... ;)
     
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  4. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #2604
    this part wasn't very nice, while the rest is...well...negligible to say the least.

    :)
     
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  5. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #2605
    I think they will probabably nomminate some white christian males to run for president this time, what do you think?
     
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  6. caseagainstbushcom

    caseagainstbushcom Peon

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    #2606
    If only we could have a reality based presidency.
     
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  7. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #2607
    As do I, would be nice having an option I could say I actually do support in most ways.

    Wasn't that the republicans last time around? Seriously both sides did it, but Bush sure was guilty of his fair share.
     
    GRIM, Oct 31, 2005 IP
  8. Hodgedup

    Hodgedup Notable Member

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    #2608
    I think Mary Carey should think even bigger. Forget being governor of California. She should run for precidency.
     
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  9. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #2609
    At least then people would pay attention when the president spoke, lol
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #2610
    There's plenty of other reasons why you are narrow minded. This was just one of them :D

    I didn't think you would be opposed to these lies: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=25263
    You can't have a true case against bush if you don't believe these lies! Only a giant hypocrite could claim to be against Bush based on perceived lies but pretend they didn't exist before he was in office!

    So all the democrats in Congress who voted, including Kerry who was for the war in 1998 and 2002 before he was against the war and for it before he was against it a dozen other times since, would fall into the same category? Would you like a permission slip? ;) Discounted spit balls? You mean the international community, much of which were bought out with oil vouchers and the oil for food program? Come on, you can say it :D

    Do generals make decisions in war? You probably wouldn't know the answer to that one. Did Clinton let osama go, three times? Who can say "Sandy Berger?"

    Exactly as I predicted! Oh, I'm outraged and hurt a Christian basher filled with hatred and spam tells me I can't be a true Christian! I suppose next, I'll be qualified for some virgins :D
     
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  11. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Which part of the link are you talking about? The 'wmd' issue or the previous politicians stances?
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  13. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #2613
    Thank you :)

    I also don't dispute what other politicans have said, I actually do believe or 'did' that some WMD's would be found, that is however not my basis for being against how the war was waged so I guess or at least I hope it does not apply to me.

    Further more if it could be found all parties lied 'of which I don't believe' I'd hope something could be done about it.
     
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  14. uca

    uca Well-Known Member

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    #2614
    I wonder what would some say if one of these days wmd should be found.
    I guess they would say someone put them there.
    Reply ready: why would he not do it before?
    No clever replies to that could follow, no matter what...

    The above is just my very modest opinion...:)
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #2615
    I wasn't addressing you, hrb (no offense). Actually, I was waiting for you to pick up and start in on CAB. Not sure why, but a little birdie was saying "where's hrb?"
     
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  16. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    I wouldn't doubt it and I'm actually hopeful for the US and it's credibility that we do find some. Still would not change my position though ;)
     
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  17. caseagainstbushcom

    caseagainstbushcom Peon

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    #2617
    American Law and the Bible as the Basis for It

    Some say the basis for American law is the Ten Commandments. Still others prefer to abide by their particular favorite portions of the Bible as the upright way to live. Cherry pickers aside, the Bible says what the Bible says.

    Deuteronomy
    27:10 Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

    The Law is one for all. For yea, the Law doest apply to all, equally.

    Numbers

    15:15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD.
    15:16 One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.

    Behold! The voice of the LORD thy God, and his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day. The Law.

    Still believe in following The Law?
     
    caseagainstbushcom, Oct 31, 2005 IP
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    tesla Notable Member

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    You know this is one of the longest threads I've ever seen. I've decided I want to add my two cents in this.

    First off, Bush lied about America's reasons for going into this war. I have video clips of Bush saying Saddam possessed some of the most dangerous weapons known to man. Whether you support Bush or not, you can't argue with facts.

    Two years ago I set in a college class arguing with other students about Iraq before the US went in. I told everyone that WMDs would never be found. To date I'am right.

    See, the plan for the Bush administration was never to "free" Iraq like NBC and CNN would have us believe. The Bush admin actually wants the situation in Iraq to break down. The longer the US stays in Iraq, the more money Halliburton and other defense contractors make.

    Iraq will become like Bosnia/Serbia. Divide and conquer. In fact plans were laid down in the late 90s for the invasion of Iraq before 911. Don't believe me?

    Check this link to go to wikipedia to read about the Project For A New American Century(PNAC)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PNAC.

    All you people who support this war need to wake up. It is not about Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative.

    I'm a libertarian, and I want freedom. And no man should be sent in battle unless he is under attack. What makes you guys think powerful politicians and governments have your best interests in mind?

    For all you who support this war, you probably failed history classes when you were in school. If you studied history you would know that governments have oppressed and hurt people for centuries.

    If you want real news about what is really going on with the Iraq War, you guys should check out www.infowars.com. Alex Jones speaks the truth. Everything he says is documented.
     
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  19. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    Welcome to the discussion, and I for one am happy to see a non lefty or righty join in :)
     
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  20. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #2620
    Another crack in coalition of unwilling. :)

    Berlusconi 'tried to dissuade Bush on Iraq'

    "Italy PM: Never convinced military force was best option

    ROME, Italy (CNN) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, a staunch U.S. ally on the war with Iraq, says he tried to steer U.S. President George W. Bush away from war with Iraq, saying he was "never convinced that war was the best way to succeed in bringing democracy to a country."

    .......................

    "On the contrary, I tried on numerous occasions to convince the American president not to go to war. I did what was within my capabilities to avoid that happening."

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    Berlusconi earlier this year said Italy should begin a gradual withdrawal."

    How long do you think before England wants to leave too? :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Oct 31, 2005 IP