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Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Postingpays, Sep 14, 2006.

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  1. Eco'o

    Eco'o Active Member

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  2. debunked

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    He gave you many verses that show how it is the Holy Spirit and how that can't be mohamad. Spirit can live within someone and mohamad can't. Personal proof also exists, but that would probably just confuse the issue.
     
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  3. Arnie

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    go on with that link it will help you to understand if you're really into truth.
     
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  4. Eco'o

    Eco'o Active Member

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    if they truth WE DON't WANT Ä°T

    no thanx no but thanx

    you are real liar nobody wants to them in TURKEY ....
     
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  5. jaree

    jaree Well-Known Member

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    How about saying it was spirit and that spirit was in Muhammed. Thats what it is saying. I would like to argue more about it but not with Arnie anymore. My question was that is there anywhere in the bible where it exactly says it is holy spirit and call it "He". I dont want anyone to tell me that they assume it is holyspirit. Let me know where exactly it says that :)
     
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  6. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    If that would have been the case than muhammed wouldn't have murdered and plasphemed and ....
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

    But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you HE

    But the Helper, the Holy Spirit we refer here as HE
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    OK, even if you try to replace the the spirit that Jesus was sending with mohamad it doesn't make any sense at all. First in the way that the comforter would work - it would be within us, and most importantly the actions of the comforter vs the actions of mohamad are opposites. Give an example of how mohamad could possibly be the comforter.
     
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  9. mahmood

    mahmood Guest

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    These answers are much much better than what I have already got, although arguable but I like it.

    You are obviously a modern muslim. You don't look at muslims like your blood brother but like a human that may make mistakes. You are not trying to find a stupid excuse for them.

    Hey wait a moment ..., let me check your profile ...., of course ....

    Man I'll immigrate to US one day, dead or alive I must go to US. Not only I like it's streets and buildings and movies, not only I like it's president, I just found out that I also like it's muslims. Man, what is the secret of America? How come I like everything of it.

    Just in the middle of typing this post I thought "What kind of muslim he is? I haven't seen such muslim, he speaks like chiristian than muslims, lets check his profile, WOW, the great US and what? Texas, home of president G.W.Bush the man of steel.

    I just make it short, I never said Islam is bad or good - if I said I didn't mean it -, I only talk about muslims here and you are the only muslim who didn't put the blame on US or others.
     
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  10. jaree

    jaree Well-Known Member

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    You are lost i think. Please read the original post and go to that article Arnie pointed. Read it and you will see whats right and whats not. Arguing about if it is holyspirit or not doesnt do anything. Read the article and you will understand what it means

    Cheers :)
     
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  11. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #831
    I have read that site before about how they think it meant that mohamad was the comforter and it makes no sense whatsoever - just read the scriptures Arnie posted and you will see why. Either the Bible is right or it is wrong, no picking which verses are right by how they can "maybe" mean mohamad
     
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    jaree Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, If you think you have seen such muslim first time then you are probably very late:D Let me say that there is no such thing as Modern Muslim. If you think i am modern then let me tell you who i am. I follow Islamic teachings and not those mullahs who bang their heads in street. Now i also must say that not all Mullahs are alike some are really good and those are actually scholars and they surely do not promote hatred at all. I have always opposed first kind of Mullahs even in a quite radical country Pakistan and i have faced troubles too but believe me those mullahs are just doing all that to get popularity and make $$$ i actually bought some mullahs(Gave them money to speak truth and it was enough for them to live the kind of life they were living without doing fake Mullahism) and made them say that they do all that for money on the news and on popular newspaper of Pakistan including Jang. Actually there is nothing about US in my point of view. I had same point of view when i was in Pakistan same when i was in India and same when i was in UK and remained same when i visited other countries including SaudiArabia,Iran,UAE and other redical Islamic nations. Those radicals are just forgeting true teachings of Islam and instead forcing their own policies in the name of God. If you dont mind may i ask you where are you from. Just my opinion that i have seen countries much better then US and i have seen Mucccccccccch better presidents then Bush and to be frank and speak truth i personaly do not agree with Bush at all. Not because he attacked Iraq but because he attacked without reason and without proper plan and i dont care if all of the DP or even all of the world disagree with me. I do not change my point of view :cool:

    Islam teaches Love for All Hatred for None


    To be frank i have never explored that however by looking at it right now i can see everything with proof and examples of Bible and everything is explained there i have no other explanation other then that. I still didnt even get the question and what was it about holy spirit or what :confused: no idea but i can assure you that the Arnie didnt read whole thing he or she just read the arguement first and posted it here. Read the whole thing and i am sure you will get answer as to why we think Holy spirit in the Bible is Muhammed(pbuh) opposed to what you think.
     
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  13. Atoll

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    #833
    Theres no Bible to read now. its all FAKE. SIMPLY FAKE.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Gotta love these duplicate accounts :rolleyes:
     
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    jaree Well-Known Member

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    :D :D mind sharing who do you think that is and why not report but wait a minute do we get something by reporting like rep or itrader :D
     
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  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I just get a little suspect of people who enter into discussions with 10 or less posts, completely out of the blue. Like they were googling for a place to sign up and rant about some goofy poly/religious topic all of a sudden.
     
    Mia, Oct 18, 2006 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Isn't that the definition of a troll? :D
     
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    jaree Well-Known Member

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    Man why didnt you clarify that it was just suspect because he or she has been reported for duplicate account :D Hopefuly i dont get banned :D

    So troll is someone who googles and then rant about religion :eek: What the heck :confused:
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    Essentially. A troll is someone who enters a forum, makes a few rants to start a war, then leaves again. Given that the guy has 10 posts and its in a controversial discussion; high troll probability.
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Actually he has 3 posts... Even a higher likelihood of trollism.
     
    Mia, Oct 18, 2006 IP
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