Another question about Article Marketting

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Zeta7, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. Zeta7

    Zeta7 Peon

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    #21
    Okay good, then I'll continue submitting there. I do like how they publish your articles very quickly after you submit them. Unlike Ezine where my first 5 articles are still pending.

    I've been sleeping a lot less these days, even when I'm in bed my brain is working too much.
     
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    #22
    EZA can be dreadfully slow.

    The thing is to keep up a steady flow there, if you can.

    Even if you just submit one a day, every day, eventually you'll get to a point where they're publishing 7 of your articles per week, on average. (Not one per day, admittedly - it'll probably be nothing for 4 days and then 4 all together, which isn't ideal, but what can you do without paying $99 per month for premium membership?).

    I don't altogether like EZA. I don't like losing so many customers to all their AdSense. I don't like some of their rules/policies (I do like others, though, and overall I dislike them less now than I used to, and I think at last they're moving in the right direction). But I like the traffic and re-publishing and viewing figures and click-through rates I can get there. (I almost never submit any article there without publishing it first on one of my own sites/blogs, though).
     
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  3. Zeta7

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    #23
    Based on your personal experience, do you get considerable traffic on those articles redirecting to the landing page when you don't build backlinks for them (since there's no way to do that to 100+ articles)?

    I've decided to start promoting a second product today in case the first is a dud. Something occured to me about keywords. Let's say that you're going for a keyword like "how to copy video games". When people type that in Google, they rarely put the "". What I've noticed is that when you simply type a keyword without the "", the top pages rarely even fully contain them. The top sites would simply have a lot of those individual words, not the full keyword. Are long tail keywords really accessible through Google when you don't put those "" ?
     
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    #24
    Just let you know that I haven't got much good impression about squidoo, either.
     
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  5. Zeta7

    Zeta7 Peon

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    #25
    So I've been creating a lot of backlinks these days for my main articles and squidoo pages to test everything out. I have to say, articlesbase very quickly ranks your articles on Google (I can't test EZA since they're slow as hell to publish), unlike my Squidoo pages. If I type "Squidoo" + "my squidoo title page", it doesn't even appear on Google. It's taking a lot longer.

    My main articlesbase article is now on Page 2 of the keyword I'm targetting so at least there's some progress!

    Oh and btw, I've been getting some "wp-comments-post.php" errors sometimes when I comment on blog posts. Is that an anti-spam thing or what?
     
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  6. Zeta7

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    #26
    I just got my first sale! :) This is an important moment for me. I checked just before going to bed, great surprise!

    It took a little less than 2 weeks to get my first sale, I'm very happy about that!

    I have a feeling I'll be very motivated tomorrow!
     
    Zeta7, Nov 22, 2009 IP
  7. evelinawilliams007

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    #27
    Sales is what motivates all of us to push forward and earn ten times as much ..

    Al.
     
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  8. Zeta7

    Zeta7 Peon

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    #28
    Just an update: Is it me or GoArticles is the best article directory? Now I only tested this on my first and only product, but I pretty much sent a bunch of articles to all the main directories and the one at GoArticles is now the NUMBER 1 result in Google when you put the keyword between "", and on the first page of Google when you don't. I didn't even build backlinks to it or anything. That same article is currently on EZA, ArticlesBase etc.

    Hopefully I'll see some sales now! I think I'm gonna start building backlinks for the GoArticles article so it can reach #1 even without the "" and to stick it there. Good idea?
     
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    #29
    If the one at GoArticles was there first, that was indexed first by Google, so it's always going to be higher-ranking than other copies.

    That said, people do report that they're getting better SERP's from GoArticles stuff now, than previously. Maybe their page-rank improved, or something?

    Well done with your initial sale, and keep them coming!
     
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    #30
    Are GoArticles pages getting indexed faster? Seemed like in the past ArticlesBase pages would be indexed within 1 or 2 hours of being submitted, but GoArticles pages were taking days if not weeks...

    But I remember that around 2 years ago, GoArticles was the leader, so we may be seeing a shift back in that direction.
     
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    #31
    Not sure ... but I wouldn't be amazed, judging by one or two comments I've seen. Not using article directories much just at the moment, I'm more into keeping my work for my own sites than letting other people use it for their Adsense farms, crack-houses, knocking-shops and whatever else they use my fine literature to feed. :eek: :D
     
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    #32
    Good work...the only problem I have with Articlesbase is their low CTR compared with Ezine. If Goarticles start to rise again I will be very happy because they don't have that crappy links inside the articles which kills my CTR on Articlesbase.

    Regarding Squidoo, please don't use them as your landing page. I saw yesterday someone with over 100 articles in the ex back niche pointing to a loacked squidoo. A waste of his work because you do get traffic from past articles.
     
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  13. Zeta7

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    #33
    It looks like my mostly clone article on ArticlesBase is now up there as well. Its ranking on Google is varying on the first page as well as the one from GoArticles. It looks like the keyword I chose barely has any anchor on first page so it's moving a lot. Building some backlinks should help them anchor/sticky them over the competition.

    I juuuuust got my 2nd sale. :) This time from my second product I've been testing. I barely did anything to promote it. 9 hops, 7 order form impression count for 1 sale. Now I don't know if that's luck, but those are impressive numbers eventhough they're small.

    My question: It's 75% commission for about 23$ and I only received 16$ for that sale. My first sale was about 20$ and I got 18$. What's up with that? Why did Clickbank decide to keep more money on that one?
     
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    #34
    If I remember correctly, Clickbank takes 7.5% + $1 per sale. The vendor gets 25% and you get the remaining 75%, on a $23 sale, that means you get approximately $15.

    That ratio holds true for all sales (with a 75/25 commission), so you're $18 sale must have been for a higher amount, probably closer to $30. It might have been an upsell or something, but you wouldn't get $18 as an affiliate on a $20 sale.
     
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    #35
    Oh sorry I've probably not been clear. The 23$ for the product I just sold is the amount the affiliate get. The product itself sells for like 30$ I think. So that means that me, as an affiliate, get 23$ everytime that product is sold. For some reason, 7$ is missing so that's really quite a lot.

    The first product I sold, I get 20$ as an affiliate for each sale and I got 18$. That's more realistic since 20$ minus the 7.5%+1$ (using what you said) is around 17.50$.

    Is it possible that the product's commission % has been greatly lowered and it didn't update on the CB website?
     
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    #36
    Totally agree - in my opinion Squidoo is absolutely dreadful for a landing page. You don't own and control it - they do. And they put advertising on it. Who wants their business to be based on landing-pages owned/controlled by other people whose terms and conditions can change so readily (as many affiliates have recently discovered to their cost)? :eek:

    1. Start with the retail price the customer pays.

    2. Deduct 7.5% from this.

    3. Then deduct from the remaining total another $1.

    What's left is the money divided between the vendor and the affiliate in the proportions they each get. The commission-rate (your percentage of that amount left after the two deductions) is displayed in the Clickbank marketplace.

    I think you're working it out the wrong way round, here? Do the two deductions (7.5% and then $1) first and then divide what's left to see what your share is. Does this help?

    I think that it isn't possible, but no guarantees! Does the product also have an "affiliates page"?
     
    alexa_s, Dec 1, 2009 IP