Another person hiding Coop links...

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by suzigeek, May 23, 2006.

  1. #1
    Checking my back links on a newish site I have ads pointing to came across this site.

    http://www.cobaltandcalcium.com/forum/profile.php?id=139

    Cant find any links to my site unless I look at the source code were they have this div:

    <div style="display: none"> which I'm assuming styles the links to not show...what a wonderful person :rolleyes: ...anyway if someone else could check I could be wrong but it seems they are hiding the links.
     
    suzigeek, May 23, 2006 IP
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  2. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #2
    Yep their hiding em.
     
    dcristo, May 23, 2006 IP
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #3
    amazing that google keeps the pages in its index. that's the most transparent css trick.
     
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  4. AfterHim.com

    AfterHim.com Peon

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    #4
    duh...why not use the wordpress.com trick and just align them 9000 px to the right??? isn't that the more obvious way :)
     
    AfterHim.com, May 24, 2006 IP
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    hextraordinary Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Google index them because the "display: none" property is used by many drop down and other type of menus. So what is it going to do? Not index all the links showing up on site menus?
     
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  6. suzigeek

    suzigeek Peon

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    #6
    So what if Google indexes the links (which I'm not sure if they would ). No one can click on them....This is an ad network right??:cool:
     
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  7. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #7
    Site has been banned.
     
    digitalpoint, May 24, 2006 IP
  8. JamesColin

    JamesColin Prominent Member

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    #8
    I hope you told them how much they suck
     
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    #9
    Nice, I'm a brand new joinee and just had my first ad approved and am throwing all my tiny weight at it... :D

    Anyway, just wanted to say that seeing this type of corrective action taken and coming right from the top really gives me a sense of confidence.

    Thanks.
     
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    I think google can detected "display:none" css style ... google is sooo smart
     
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    #11
    I don't think the issue is whether or not Google can detect it. I think it may be that it is not easy to programmatically determine if the display: none style is being legitimately used.

    I am definitely glad to see the network owner keeps up with this kind of stuff and takes it seriously.
     
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  12. iShopHQ

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    #12
    easy to get around

    make a div, giv it an ID

    <div id="HiddenStuff">
    hidden stuff
    </div>

    then with a javascript switch the visibility of it when the page loads

    <script language="JavaScript">
    document.all.HiddenStuff.style.visibility = "hidden";
    </script>

    Ot style it with css, and put the css in a folder that robots.txt ecludes to the spiders
    <div class="HiddenStuff">hidden stuff</div>

    in your style.css put:
    .HiddenStuff {display:none;}

    You don't even have to set the visibility:
    .HiddenStuff {width:0px;height:0px;display:inline}

    want to be really tricky? Use z-index

    z-index only works on elements that have been styled with position:absolute

    if you use a main table to hold your stuff do this:
    <table class="MainTable">

    in your style sheet

    .MainTable {position:absolute;z-index:1;background-color:white;}
    .HiddenStuff {position:absolute;z-index:0}

    this will put your div behind the table....

    good reference: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Understanding_CSS_z-index:Adding_z-index
     
    iShopHQ, May 31, 2006 IP
  13. suzigeek

    suzigeek Peon

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    #13
    Well heres another one:

    http://www.markgoodwinpianos.co.uk/piano/gallery/mg143-chappell-concert-grand-piano/hammers2.php

    I'm not trying to be the police. I'm just trying to follow some backlinks. These lucky folks happen to be on the first couple of pages of listings....I'm sure there are tons more :(

    What I don't understand is why hide the links? What benefit is there to it? Don't the SE's see them anyway? Obviously they do becuase they are showing up as backlinks to my pages.
     
    suzigeek, Jun 1, 2006 IP
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  14. iShopHQ

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    #14
    hiding them in the method these two sites are doing doesn't hide them from SEs, only human visitors who won't be able to see the links.

    So not sure why the webmaster don't want them to be seen, unless it's a aesthetic issue....

    In any case, against the rules, so they can't complain when they get kicked out.
     
    iShopHQ, Jun 1, 2006 IP
  15. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #16
    Great post on Visibility ShopHQ, I have 100's of domains and want to interlink them using 1 way links based on c-class IP and was looking for a way to do it without ruining the asthetics of pages. Awsome post.
     
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  17. iShopHQ

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    #17
    Hey smaxot - glad you found it useful. Here is code for an actualy page that uses z-index to put one layer over another:


    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <html>
    <head>
    <style type="text/css">
    body
    {
    margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    }

    #absdiv1
    {
    z-index: 5;
    position: absolute;
    width: 100%;
    height: 75px;
    background-color: #ffffff;
    }

    #reldiv2
    {
    z-index: 1;
    position: relative;
    width: 300px;
    height: 75px;
    }
    </style>
    </head>

    <body>

    <TABLE cellpadding=5 cellspacing=0 width="100%">
    <TR>
    <TD>
    <div id="absdiv1">
    This could the div with your header stuff in it, or your logo in the upper left
    </div>

    <div id="reldiv2">
    You can put all kinds of stuff in this div and no one can see it; links, keywords, even images
    </div>
    </TD>
    </TR>
    </TABLE>

    </body>
    </html>
     
    iShopHQ, Aug 13, 2006 IP
  18. jaree

    jaree Well-Known Member

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    #18
    I dont get it but why would someone hide the Co-op? :confused:
     
    jaree, Nov 1, 2006 IP
  19. JamesColin

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    #19
    Simply to benefit from the network, without having other benefit from it. It's a lame mentality. But personnally I pulled out of the network because I suspect it to be the source of Google de-indexing me, now everything went back into order but I'm not going to join again.
     
    JamesColin, Nov 2, 2006 IP