Seems like common sense to me. Poll question: Between liberals and conservatives, who would most likely burn an America flag? Poll question: Between liberals and conservatives, who would most likely celebrate the 4th of July with an American flag? Would the results really surprise anyone?
And the sad thing is you probably still can't fire him...lol...j/k I'm sure there are some descent rule somewhere.
All things cast aside, if you want to get rid of extreme leftism in America, you do two things: control immigration, and you either privatize schooling in a state (or you get home schooling to be extremely popular). If these two things were on the American agenda, there would be numerous benefits.
Who cares? its just peice of cloth. It only has meaning if you believe in it. Its like in the vampire movies where the atheist guy trys to fend of the vampire with the cross and it doesn't work because he doesn't believe. here is some more Desecration
Actually, I more or less agree with you. I think this flag burning issue is a lot more trivial than other things. jmo.
Well I fought for that "piece of cloth" for several years so to know that some nutjob (that gets paid by tax money) took it upon himself to desecrate it troubles me more than just a little. Look at previous remarks in the thread about flag-burning in other countries. There are very serious consequences for it (New Zealand and India were mentioned). If those consequences or anything near them were imposed on this teacher in the U.S. then the ACLU would be all over it and it would never fly. Americans are continuously shamed for being Americans and attempting to hold up our national identity. The ACLU is primarily liberal-supported so the posts by Caspar saying that the mention of liberals being faultless are unsupported and false to the nth.
I did not interpret the statement to mean that it was a liberal that was responsible. I interpreted it for what it said. "the #1 goal of "liberals" is to keep people stupid." I'm having a hard time finding anything untrue about that statement.
That "piece of cloth" represents millions of people, whether you believe in it or not. Millions have died for it and millions more have fought for it, that cloth represents the freest country in the world, with the best government system ever developed. (Not talking about the people, but the democracy) - giving people more freedom than ever. Who cares? It's just millions of lives. Apparently you don't care about *any* of them.
Oh yeh? So what do you think should be done? Should be lock people up in prison for burning a flag? Hell, why not - we already lock up way more people than we should. Lets throw some more people in the slammer for victimless crimes that didn't hurt anyone. Makes perfect sense! Yeh... so why don't you go ahead and move to one of those countries? I happen to value the freedom this country USED to stand for.
"I care", and millions of others across our country care. Thanks for helping make that "scientific" study that I didn't make more frustrating for casper
"USED to stand for?" Could you give me an example of one freedom you have lost? It's kinda silly for me to ask this question, because I've asked it countless times and have yet to get an answer. This guy has not lost any freedom. In fact, under present law (thanks to the Supreme Court in 1989 and again in 1990) this guy has the freedom to burn a flag. However, I would argue that even with that freedom, he likely did violate some type of law, and certainly safety lighting a fire in a high school classroom. If he is charged with arson or reckless endangerment, I cannot say I would be surprised. Either way, you nor he, nor I have lost any freedom. If anything, you have more now, especially because of people like sd2001. You should be thanking him for that, not attacking him like some common thug.
I'd personally like to send them to a military base for some "extra training." A nice "blanket party." Why don't you move? You used to cry all the time about how bad you hated America that you were going to move, just as soon as you could find another country that could "guarantee your safety, offer good employment, provide you with freedom, et al." Nothing compares to the good ol' USA, huh? Apparently not, you are still here preaching the same hatred towards it.
hmm guys i got a great idea! how about we mass produce and sell in bulk special easy burning Israel and USA flags to arab/Muslim countries? could make a fortune on this..
Last time I checked, there is a right to protest. This could be done in a much more civilized manner than igniting a flag in front of children. Civility aside, there is that whole pesky "fire hazard" issue. Who is this "we?" Is it the government? If so, is it the state, federal, or military level that you speak of? Because each is governed by very different legislature and protocol. Before you make a sweeping statement, please try to make it a bit less ambiguous. If you don't, it makes it sound a lot like you are just speaking out of your ass and that you really don't know what you are talking about. But I'm sure that's not the case so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. Wow. What a compelling argument. Someone didn't eat their academic Weaties this morning. Whenever you're riding in a car with someone while looking for an address and they say that it's on the left when you think it's on the right do you just tell them to get out and walk? Or do you try to come to a civil conclusion that will involve compromise from both parties to find the address? And I don't mind getting attacked for my beliefs, even if I am a vet. The great thing about America (and the flag that represents it) is that everyone is equal to share their opinion no matter what contribution they have made for their country - it's still their country too. I really don't try to wear the whole "vet" thing on my sleeve. I only brought it up to show that I believe that I have a valid reason to dislike the guy's behavior.
umm I think you probably fought for the Country , the people and ideals of the country but not really for an actual peice of cloth. I could be wrong though .... Maybe somebody burned something irresponsibly in school but other then that ....
When you fight for your "Country, the people and the ideals of the country" you are fighting for your flag. That is after all what it represents.
I like how you dodged the question. Should flag burners be arrested and jailed or not? It's pretty much a yes/no.... what's your opinion? We as in the country. This country has locked up way more people than it should with all of these laws and harsh sentences. Our tax dollars are being wasted keeping people imprisoned for victimless crimes and trivial laws. From the tone of your post it sounded like you thought it was a good idea those other countries were locking up people for flag burning. If you like that kind of restrictive and opressive government then you should go somewhere that has one. That's fine... I disagree with it as well. It's stupid. He should probably be fired. But it shouldn't be illegal and he shouldn't be arrested (for flag burning). We have a lot bigger problems to deal with than stupid things like this.