Another Big Zap From Google

Well G seems out to do me in completely. BL's dropped from 855 to 302. High was 2320 BL's. Indexed pages dropped to 63. High was 400 when I entered the Coop. MSN is showing 578 indexed pages and Yahoo 259. Weight is doen to 1800 from 8000 and with latest loss of pages in G it will be almost nothing the next weight update so there doesn't seem to be much sense in keeping them the ads on the site unless some other way of calculating weight comes up. Looks like it's time to drop back and punt. Not really sure exactly what to do.

Also....Lost about 800 BL's in MSN the last week. This hasn't helped my SERPS there.

Has anyone else who has experience problems with G recently seen any changes for the better or are you still toast and crispy critters like me?

 

This morning I've just run an update using the digital point tool and happened to notice this thread in the featured box after seeing the majority of my backlinks numbers displayed in red. But from my own site statistics I haven't seen a drop in users from Google or any of my keywords falling.

 

Guys forget the numbers that Google is reporting, they are reporting a wrong amount constantly. ALL that matters is that your link from the pages is in the Google cache, if it is then it is a link.

 

I could care less about the BL drop. Google BL reports have always been worthless. It's the de-indexing and drop in pages that is the concern. Having 100,000 BL's is worthless if your pages aren't indexed and your not in the SERPS. I just wish there was a difinitive way to determine if the problems some of us have been experiencing are Coop related or not.

 

Apparently it does matter if Coop ad weight is based on the figures that Google reports...

According to Google I now have zero backlinks, and my coop weight is dropping rapidly

 

The figure it's based on is the number of indexed pages Google reports with API. My weight used to be about 8000. I have a small site compared to many. With the number of pages indexed now I'll be lucky to have a weight of 800.

 

Page counts matter to the Coop... Not backlinks

 

If I check backlinks in Google with links:www.montesdemalaga.com, the result is 516, the same number th DP tracker reports. If I check the number of pages in Google with site:www.montesdemalaga.com, the result is 1080, but the DP tracker reports only 644. Why do they agree on one thing and not on the other? Isn't the same API being used for both reports?

 

No, the API results are slightly different to those you would see on the consumer Google results pages...

The Coop is driven by the API...

So, if you're page counts start falling with the API, that would explain a weight loss...

Or you could just to a site: query on google and see that you have pages without title or descriptions...
That means that they are being dropped...

 

Okay, I see what's happening. I've changed the site from static html to dynamic php. Now Google is dropping the old html pages, discards a lot of new php pages as duplicate content because it hasn't dropped the corresponding html pages yet, and still hasn't indexed a lot of the new php pages. So I guess I'll just have to be patient and wait until the dust settles...

What strikes me though is this. Coop reports 0 backlinks and 694 pages for montesdemalaga.com and gives me a weight of a little more than 8000. If I change my coop domain to www.montesdemalaga.com, I get a weight of almost 14000, although coop reports 644 pages but 516 backlinks for this domain.

 

well I'm bleeding profusely just as so many others seem to be: link

 

my backlinks dropped from 900 to somewhere in the 300's since yesterday according to the tool on my main site, while my forums climbed from 18 into the 400's.

Not sure what is going on with google right now.

 

You guys think your problems in Googles is caused by the Co-op ads?

 

That's my opinion...... sad to say

 

Unfortunately mine too. I would be more inclined to think that it has to do more with a "bad neighborhood" rather then the Network itself. Since members can point ads to any place they want rather then the sites they registered I would think it would be almost impossible to tell if they were pointing to something considered to be "bad" by Google. Even though the ads are reviewed. And if a site displays a link to a bad neighborhood and it gets spidered then it seems you wind up getting zapped too. Personally I think the problem will propogate through the network over time. First impressions are that the only safe sites are ones that ads are pointing to but not displaying ads. But I'm not 100% sure of that.

 

Well all I know is that I'm taking one of my older domains, clearing it out and putting up companion copy to lead folks to my existing web site. Hopefully the companion site will pick the rankings back up. Either way, I need to get my traffic back. It's dropped to levels I haven't seen in years.

 

I would say it was an algo change if it was just a drop in SERPS but we're being completely delisted. And have dropped out of the SERPS completely. And if it was a new site I could see it also but the site is over 7 years old and has never had anything like this happen before and has always been indexed and spidered reguarly. The only change was joining the Coop in October. It also seems too coincidental that it is happening to others in the Coop also. Another thing rather strange is that if I look at the links left in Google many are from what I assume are Coop sites and those just happen to be links with no description or cache in many cases. There's just an awful lot of coincidences.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Coop is great and it helped me tremendously for 3 months not only in Google but MSN & Yahoo as well. But then something happened? Bad neighborhood and just happening to get spidered while that/those links were on the page? Too many links too fast? (Which I could see getting you sandboxed or penilized but not dropped) I just wish I knew for certain what the actual cause is. Whatever it is it's a moot point now though since there are only about 60 pages still indexed and they look like their set to be dropped so with no weight and no visits from GBot I doubt the Coop would be of any benefit to me or any ads I displayed. At least not in Google. Now if MSN or even Yahoo were used to calculate weight it would be another matter.

Sorry to ramble and write such a long post but this has got me sick. The prospect of possibly having to start over and dump a decent 7 year old site isn't doing my ulcers any good.

 

I'm not dumping my site, I'm just putting up a 'companion' site with the same content but with the top of the page filled with a flash animation to have the visitor move over to the real site. I'll take it down when and if my site comes back in the serps....... the coop was the only questionable content I had on my site (imho)