Homer, we have many great members from Canada Compar, Minstrel, New Computer (Rod or NC) and now Homer, just as long as we don't get anyone named Gomer from Canada we will be fine PS: we had a girl named Kalina that was a great member from Canada in the past, she has gone into hiding for some reason
LOL, I figured I could take the off-topic of an off-topic of an off-topic thread - off-topic. What could be worse than having to go to a shrink??? Going to a Canadian Shrink eh? Here in the states you don't have to learn english, we have to learn your language or it is considered non-politacally correct. We have people who don't want us to use the word illegal for illegal aliens! Talk about stupidity run rampid!
I thought that was the whole idea here. Especially After I read Shawn was asked to remove 5 posts from this thread by Google. Let me please clarify something. I agree with Mistrel...real beer and poutine, eh. I bet most people reading this don't even know what poutine is... http://www.avivalasvegas.com/Pages/poutinetalk6.htm
Shawn did the right thing as he does most of the time. He could have deleted the entire thread because of what happened on the forum. Google seems to have been kind to Josh and the forum because it was not good to do this sort of thing in the first place.
Ok guys I have sat and watched this thread with absolute horror. My newsletter did ask for people to support us by supporting the google ads but also went on to say 'Theres a lot of good stuff out there' which was referriing to the google ads. I need to say at the outset that non of this was malicious. I am apalled by the behaviour of the people that participated in this thread and I also must say by the mail that I have been receiving, so are a lot of people. I find it absolutely shameful that adults could behave in such a manner. I mention adults because it seems that you were all drawn in by a 13 year olds actions. Only one person sought to question that this kid was doing illegal stuff Ok the nicety's over, I am going to take action as I have sought legal advice with all the evidence that is available. I cannot allow such deformation to take place. What happenned here was completely illegal and I will remedy that. I have also contacted google about this forum and its contents which may I also remind the admin of your own rules which state - "Personal attacks against people, or sites will not be tolerated. If you have an issue with someone or their site, take it up with them personally." Admin you are not doing your job properely either. Here is part of the reply from Google: "In relation to your concerns regarding activities by other publishers, please note that we take very seriously any suggestion by third parties who advocate contacting Google AdSense publishers on our behalf. We have ensured that such suggestions have been removed from any offending website. If you have further concerns in relation to posts or material pertaining to yourself, we suggest contacting the website directly." The first thing I want is this thread completely removing from this forum as Google also request. I also require a written apology from the admin of this forum for allowing such matters and I require a written apology from the username Josh for carrying out such actions. Whilst I cannot force anything from you I strongly advise that you do so. For my part I sincerely apologise for any misconceptions that I caused from my wording in my newsletter and that will not happen again. May I also say that I will not be visiting this forum again so tghere will be no point in posting replies here. I may further state that any replies will be monitored by a third party Regards John Thompson designcrowd (admin) admin@designcrowd.com
Dont expect a apology from me or josh or shawn. You got what you deserved! you were ripping people off, fake clicks cost alot! ppl like you dont even deserve an internet connection.
But it was against the AdSense TOS and that upset people who pay for AdWords. spellcheck: "non" = "none" spellcheck: "deformation" = "defamation" But it's not defamation to point out something that is true and verifiable as such. You DID exhort your members to click on AdSense ads to help boost your earnings, contrary to the TOS, thereby defrauding AdWords advertisers. It seems to me the attacks were against webmasters who attempt to defraud AdWords advertisers. You happened to be one of them. My understanding is that Google requested the removal of five posts, not the entire thread. Hmmm... I would strongly advise you not to hold your breath while you're waiting. I guess not. I would assume a repetition would result in cancellation of your AdSense account. We'll decide whether or not there is a point in replying to the thread -- this thread wasn't about you in the first place... it was about fraud against AdWords advertisers. Third Party, feel free to pass that info along to yesitsme.
I also missed the part where it's supposed to say: "Sorry Google for blatantly violating the business contract I agreed to and especially sorry you AdWords advertisers that I cost money." There are no misconceptions in your wording. You actively chose to violate the TOS and steal money from us. Heck, you even dragged your innocent newsletter readers into this fraud scheme. No sorry from me until I hear one from you, plus Google, plus credit back.
Well John, if your not going to apologize to Google for your actions then I will on your behalf...sorry it was an honest webmaster error and it will not happen again' Your lucky you are still publishing, guy. I spend 5 digits a month on AdWords. To me you are in clear breach of Google's TOS. Chalk it up for learning and move on. I agree that you owe Google and all AW advertisers an apology. That simple
I have no problem apologizing to Josh for encouraging him to do something that could have possibly got him in hot water (I wasn't thinking that at the time) I have no problem apologizing to Shawn as he has to deal with the fallout of this, right or wrong. I even have no problem apologizing to Google as when it comes down to it, its probably not totally fair to pretend to be them (even if the motives were correct) But this guy can kiss my ass.
My thoughts exactly...not on the right or left side...right in the middle. Anyone besides this guy that I have offended, I too, apologize.
^what he said^ I sent you an appoligy via e-mail John, as shown earlier in this thread. Frankly, I thought and still think you deserved way more than what I did to you. My God. You are officialy a moron in my book. How can that be considored a misconception? You clearly stated 'Click those two ads in the footer to help us out' -- doesnt sound fuzzy to me. For the love of God I can't beleive you still have your account. My account was terminated with no explination, and I _didn't_ ask people to click my ads, and I _didn't_ try to flat-out lie to Google. Josh
I can understand his frustration in regards to being duped about google's email. I would probably be quite annoyed at that as well. That however, does not in any way change the fact that what he asked people to do in his newsletter was unethical, against google TOS and stealing from adword users, all three of which he did not take responsibility for, rather tried to skirt the issue up to a 'misunderstanding' As far as legal action goes? No one said ANYTHING about you here that isn't actually true. Nothing illegal with that.
Precisely, Wendy. It's not libel or slander if it's true and, unless they were removed, we had screenshots of the violation.