Did they change the president 12 months ago? I thought Bush was still the president and the one who is failing in everything. Zman I stated in my previous post, why you believe in dictatorship but you did not respond. Can we agree now that you do not agree with democratic systems?
Step 1 to solving the problem: Get rid of Bush and all of his advisors. Step 2 to solving the problem: Ban the patriot act After that who knows.. but it would be a great start
Well not really because I would rather spend more time making things work rather than bitch about them. But I will say that I live in a democracy and love every minute of it so Im not sure what you're on about.
Well with regards to the original letter, the big problem is that if you come at politics from that perspective, you don't really have much of an alternative no matter how little you think the GOP has done. I lean libertarian myself so I'm a little more used to not having a political party do what I want them to, but it doesn't seem to me that the Democratic party is a viable alternative on any of those issues. Lots of Republicans blow money on all kinds of pointless projects, but I think it would just be worse if they weren't in power. On campaign finance reform - totally agree with you, and while there are some Democrats who have taken good positions on this (Harry Reid introducing a bill protecting bloggers from campaign finance laws), overall they tend to support campaign finance speech restrictions, especially if you think that donating money is speech. To add to that, I don't think the worldview of Democrats on terrorism is workable. You can see some of that in this thread - it's an idealistic (or unrealistic) view about torture and other methods that I think we probably do have to keep in our arsenal, at least sometimes. Personally, I don't consider most of what we're doing torture anyway - if it doesn't cause someone permanent physical harm, then I don't think we should ban interrogators from doing it. I've heard lots of things labelled torture (peeing on a Koran, smearing ink on someone and saying it's menstrual blood) when I would say go ahead and do it if it gets us useful information. If the Democrats aren't going to be much better on most of the issues I care about, and will probably be worse on at least a couple of important ones, then I think I still have to keep voting GOP as opposed to abstaining or whatever.
Let me ask you these questions and you can think about it. 1- In a democracy, is it possible to arrest people, imprison them without any charges, trial or conviction or is this a sign of dictatorship? 2- In a democracy, do people have a right to free speech or do they get letters from IRS and be secretly investigated by FBI because they dare to speak against governments policies? 3- In a democracy, do we torture prisoners or not? You say that you love democracy but everything that you state as your opinion and the government actions that you defend, is aimed at ending the democratic traditions in USA.
While I come from the other side of the fence...that is a good letter. The current combination Republicans in the congress and executive office are showing that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If the Democrats controlled these two parts of the government they would probably be demonstrating their own f*cked up ways. The concept of limited government with limited taxation is so far from reality that it isn't funny. In fact we are moving toward a government fiscal disaster. Spend like crazy...expand the government....and have no way to pay for it. Right now...China is becoming the underwriter of American debt. Combine that with the middle east rolling in American dollars for oil...and we are basically mortgaging our future for a b*llsh*t present. Dave
When will it stop?? (And I am not talking about your fantasy world, I am talking about the ranting of that fantasy.)
Do you have any answer to questions, except one line attack on me. I see that you are a true believer in Bush ideology, "The answer to every problem is to arrest the critic and force the opposition to be quite". Long live patriot act, right?
Thats the whole thing, you keep trying to say that certain people believe a certain way and I know that I don't line up at all with what you keep claiming that I do. Everyone else that YOU have attacked, you have stretched their words or totally ignored them. You ASSuMe a lot of those who YOU attack. Did I attack you? I wouldn't think that claiming you live some wierd fantasy is an attack, but my observation, since you obviously don't say things about people on this forum that are true, now do you?
Still nothing to say about the issues like Constitution, democracy, patriot act, treats to freedom and human rights by this administration and only interested in discussing me. If you find me or blaming me for different things in your fantasies so interesting, you can start a thread called "let's bash Gworld" and I promise that I won't even participate or defend myself in that thread, so you, Gtech, Zman and other Bush supporters can attack me personally as much as you like. On other hand, if you have nothing to say about the issues discussed then may be it is best that you don't post in this thread since it wastes people time reading the nonsense and on top of that you make fool of yourself.
You really added a lot to this conversation this time didn't you? Do I really need to post in this thread just so I can shut you up? I mean it seems like a once a week occurrence of me showing everyone what a true idiot you are. Since you had so many questions earlier about what the definition of a democracy, here you go http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy
I see that you still have noting to say, except personal attacks and posting a link to a dictionary definition that you don't understand the meaning of. This is the definition from your link: democracy Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives. A political or social unit that has such a government. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power. Majority rule. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community. Can you tell me how do you define imprisonment and torture without any charges, courts or conviction as social equality and respect for the individual within a community?
Yes but the US is not a democracy and never has been, it was built on the Republic version of government. They are similiar, and most people call it a democracy but you realy can't use a definition for democracy versus the current US stance or previous as we never were a democracy.